访谈录 2010-12-02&12-04 专访《黑天鹅》主演娜塔莉

In her new movie Black Swan, Natalie Portman, has pushed herself to the limit. She plays a ballerina who suddenly seems to be crumbling¹ as she pursues the role of lifetime, and critics are already calling it the role of Natalie's lifetime, a performance that could win her Oscar. We're lucky to have her join us this morning to talk about it. And thank you for coming in this morning. Thank you for having me. I showed it to whole group of people at our house over Thanksgiving, and we were all mesmerized² (thank you) by the end, and I couldn’t really figure it out to final few minutes.
It's a real, uh, conversation piece I think, I think it's definitely something that will leave you with a lot to talk about after you see it. And it's something you pursued with real intensity³ for so long, more than 10 years in the making, what was it about this film and this role?
Well, I really want to work with director Darren Aronofsky, the director of the film, I’ve just admired his work forever, so when he approached me about 10 years ago, I was just excited, the prospects⁴ of working with him. And I also just love dance, so I thought it will be such a sort of dream come true, to get, you know. You danced as a young girl, right? I danced until 12 then I stopped until I started training for this film. But you're really trained, I saw, I read your coach said it. You know, you decided⁵ in order to play a ballerina, you had to train like ballerina. Oh, yeah, I mean, we did a year ahead of time then we're doing like 5 to 8 hours a day, ballet, cross training, swimming, toeing, just basic working out all day. It gives me a complete new respect for ballet dancers. You lost 20 pounds, one of the things you see in the film is how, I guess, it's expected from Darren Aronofsky doing the rest, how physically⁶ punishing ballet could be. Oh, absolutely, I mean, I couldn't believe today, I was reading in the New York Times, there was a review of the Nutcracker, and the reviewer in the review said the ballerina looks fat. And I was like in what other fields is it acceptable to judge artists by how big they are, and it was just amazing all of the pressures on dancer to starve themselves with extreme athleticism⁷.
The physical pressures and the psychological pressure, and your character is really under great psychological pressure from herself, from her mother, from the ballet master, and I want to show a clip of you that really gets that and the kind of manipulation, I guess your character was facing. In 4 years, every time you dance, I see you obsessed⁸ getting each in every move perfectly⁹ right, but I never see you lose yourself, ever! All the discipline for what?
Just wanna be perfect. You what? I wanna be perfect. Perfection is not just about the control, it's also about letting go. Surprise yourself, so you can surprise the audience. Transcendence, and very few have it in them. I think I do have it in me.
Ah, you bit me? First, many surprises, uh, coming up, but he's under something there, isn't he? Trying too hard to be perfect comes at the cost of beauty. Absolutely, I mean, human creation always has to do with imperfection. The beauty is in the imperfection, what makes each one of us unique. And he really teaches her to find her own pleasure instead of just trying to please everyone around her which allows her to become a woman and an artist.
And we watch her go through that, you say, become a woman. That's actually I guess, in some way what's universal about. This is about dance, but it's also the story about young woman growing up from a very cloistered¹⁰ environment. Exactly, I mean, she's really starting out, just tried to make everyone around her happy and then she has to figure out how to make herself happy. That's absolutely what everyone goes through, maturing. But it could be one of the hardest things to do. Absolutely.
Well, it is just a brilliant performance, congratulations,Thank you so much.
Good luck with everything.
Thank you. 

1 crumbling   

adj.摇摇欲坠的

参考例句：

• an old house with crumbling plaster and a leaking roof 一所灰泥剥落、屋顶漏水的老房子
• The boat was tied up alongside a crumbling limestone jetty. 这条船停泊在一个摇摇欲坠的石灰岩码头边。

2 mesmerized   

v.使入迷( mesmerize的过去式和过去分词 )

参考例句：

• The country girl stood by the road, mesmerized at the speed of cars racing past. 村姑站在路旁被疾驶而过的一辆辆车迷住了。 来自《现代英汉综合大词典》
• My 14-year-old daughter was mesmerized by the movie Titanic. 我14岁的女儿完全被电影《泰坦尼克号》迷住了。 来自互联网

3 intensity   

n.强烈，剧烈；强度；烈度

参考例句：

• I didn't realize the intensity of people's feelings on this issue.我没有意识到这一问题能引起群情激奋。
• The strike is growing in intensity.罢工日益加剧。

4 prospects   

n.希望，前途(恒为复数)

参考例句：

• There is a mood of pessimism in the company about future job prospects. 公司中有一种对工作前景悲观的情绪。
• They are less sanguine about the company's long-term prospects. 他们对公司的远景不那么乐观。

5 decided   

adj.决定了的，坚决的；明显的，明确的

参考例句：

• This gave them a decided advantage over their opponents.这使他们比对手具有明显的优势。
• There is a decided difference between British and Chinese way of greeting.英国人和中国人打招呼的方式有很明显的区别。

6 physically   

adj.物质上，体格上，身体上，按自然规律

参考例句：

• He was out of sorts physically,as well as disordered mentally.他浑身不舒服，心绪也很乱。
• Every time I think about it I feel physically sick.一想起那件事我就感到极恶心。

7 athleticism   

n.运动竞赛，崇尚运动，竞技热

参考例句：

• He brings defense. He brings talent. He brings athleticism. That's a lot. “他带来的防御，他带来了人才，他带来了身体，这是很多”。 来自互联网
• Each of these sports isn't won through sheer athleticism alone. 每个体育项目无法凭借纯粹的运动能力而获胜。 来自互联网

8 obsessed   

adj.心神不宁的,鬼迷心窍的,沉迷的

参考例句：

• He's obsessed by computers. 他迷上了电脑。
• The fear of death obsessed him throughout his old life. 他晚年一直受着死亡恐惧的困扰。

9 perfectly   

adv.完美地，无可非议地，彻底地

参考例句：

• The witnesses were each perfectly certain of what they said.证人们个个对自己所说的话十分肯定。
• Everything that we're doing is all perfectly above board.我们做的每件事情都是光明正大的。

10 cloistered   

adj.隐居的，躲开尘世纷争的v.隐退，使与世隔绝( cloister的过去式和过去分词 )

参考例句：

• the cloistered world of the university 与世隔绝的大学
• She cloistered herself in the office. 她呆在办公室里好像与世隔绝一样。 来自《简明英汉词典》