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(单词翻译:双击或拖选)
SCOTT SIMON, HOST:
I guess we should get used to saying this. President-elect Donald Trump1 complimented Vladimir Putin on Friday. He said in a tweet, quote, "I always knew he was very smart." Trump was referring to Putin's decision not to sanction the U.S. after President Obama announced new sanctions against Russia and said that he would expel 35 Russian diplomats2. NPR's Ron Elving joins us. Ron, thanks so much for being with us.
RON ELVING, BYLINE3: Good to be with you, Scott.
SIMON: Did Donald Trump clear up any doubts anyone might have had about how he views Vladimir Putin and Russia?
ELVING: The bromance continues, if that's what you mean. There do seem to be a lot of questions, though, about what this is really all about and whether it really is some sort of flirtation4 between these two leaders. Why does Trump seem to go out of his way to flatter Putin, to take the Russian point of view against that of the entire U.S. intelligence community? With respect to the Russian hacking5 of the campaign, the intelligence community says it was clearly them. Many of them say that they were doing it to help Donald Trump get elected. He rejects all of that. Some ask if this has to do with business relationships that might be deep in those unglimpsed (ph) tax returns. But others say he just wants to shake up all the old assumptions about who our friends and enemies really are in the world and use the uncertainty6 to cut some better deals and forge some more productive alliances.
SIMON: Senator John McCain on Friday said the Russian hacks7 are an act of war. There are a lot of Republicans and Democrats8 who don't, obviously, share Trump's admiring view of Putin. Where does this leave the Congress in what looks like it might be the first major foreign policy question for the new administration?
ELVING: The new Congress is sworn in on Tuesday. McCain has a hearing in his armed services committee on Thursday. So he wants to go right after this right away. Then, there will be hearings in the Senate Intelligence Committee. And there are a lot of Democrats and, certainly McCain, who would like to have a select committee. That's the kind we had for Watergate in the '70s or Iran-Contra in the '80s, but that does not appear to be happening. The leadership does not want to make that commitment. They have an agenda. The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, in particular has said that he thinks the regular committees can handle it. And he and Speaker Paul Ryan over in the House have a big, long agenda of Republican issues, conservative issues that they want to get to, from repealing9 Obamacare to changing the tax code, and they don't want to see the media spotlight10 go somewhere else.
SIMON: Ron, the U.S. has done this before - impose sanctions on Russia, and Russia ran the table in Syria. They haven't loosened their grip on Crimea. Putin says they haven't suffered economically because of sanctions. So are these new sanctions and tossing out the diplomats just for show?
ELVING: We should say this is a multi-level chess game, and we can only see the top level - the overt11 actions, not the covert12. But these diplomatic measures that we can see do seem like gestures, really, only. And economic sanctions are the real deal. Russia has suffered economically in recent years from sanctions. They do hate those sanctions. But, of course, what they really hate is low oil prices.
SIMON: Has the Obama administration been late to recognize the threat from Russia?
ELVING: Perhaps not to recognize the threat but slow to get serious about it. After the Crimea sanctions, there were lots of other provocations13, Syria being the worst, Obama clearly not willing to go to war in Syria. So Russia has had something of a free field of fire as it were. But as far as the cyberhacking of this election campaign, the administration did sound the alarm last fall, but they did not go to the mat, in part, because they didn't want to appear to be interfering14 with the election themselves. And let's face it, they thought Hillary Clinton was going to win anyway.
SIMON: Ron, this was the administration that said we needed to do a reset15 with Russia. What happened?
ELVING: President Obama and his first secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, believed that his coming to office, and the departure of George W. Bush and the shelving of the Iraq War, if you will, at least for the moment, in 2009, was going to be a reset with everyone and that we could deal with the Russians on a new basis with a new set of personalities16. That is, perhaps, what every administration thinks when it first comes to power, and then, the years of reality set in - certainly as they have for the last eight. Now, we have a new president who deeply believes that he can redefine the relationship not only with Vladimir Putin but with Russia more generally. We shall see.
SIMON: NPR's Ron Elving, thanks so much.
ELVING: Thank you, Scott.
1 trump | |
n.王牌,法宝;v.打出王牌,吹喇叭 | |
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2 diplomats | |
n.外交官( diplomat的名词复数 );有手腕的人,善于交际的人 | |
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3 byline | |
n.署名;v.署名 | |
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4 flirtation | |
n.调情,调戏,挑逗 | |
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5 hacking | |
n.非法访问计算机系统和数据库的活动 | |
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6 uncertainty | |
n.易变,靠不住,不确知,不确定的事物 | |
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7 hacks | |
黑客 | |
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8 democrats | |
n.民主主义者,民主人士( democrat的名词复数 ) | |
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9 repealing | |
撤销,废除( repeal的现在分词 ) | |
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10 spotlight | |
n.公众注意的中心,聚光灯,探照灯,视听,注意,醒目 | |
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11 overt | |
adj.公开的,明显的,公然的 | |
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12 covert | |
adj.隐藏的;暗地里的 | |
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13 provocations | |
n.挑衅( provocation的名词复数 );激怒;刺激;愤怒的原因 | |
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14 interfering | |
adj. 妨碍的 动词interfere的现在分词 | |
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15 reset | |
v.重新安排,复位;n.重新放置;重放之物 | |
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16 personalities | |
n. 诽谤,(对某人容貌、性格等所进行的)人身攻击; 人身攻击;人格, 个性, 名人( personality的名词复数 ) | |
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