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美国国家公共电台 NPR The Satire Continues With 'The Hard Times: The First 40 Years'

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(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "BLITZKRIEG BOP")

RAMONES: (Singing) They're forming in straight line. They're going through a tight wind. The kids are losing their minds. Blitzkrieg bop.

RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

Punk rock - it can mean different things to different people. But there are some ideas that are central to the genre1. Punk is anti-establishment. Punk is emotional. It is raw. And for the most part, it's pretty serious, which makes it ripe for a good comedic grilling2.

BILL CONWAY: There's a lot that is funny about punk when you take a step back and actually look at how ridiculous it can be sometimes because people are so protective of it in a weird3 way.

MARTIN: Bill Conway is co-founder and editor-in-chief of The Hard Times. It's a satirical punk rock news website. Think of it as, like, The Onion for the cool kids. They've got a new book out called "The Hard Times: The First 40 Years." And it's a collection of the website's funniest articles. And it also reaches back into punk's rich history to make fun of the scene's biggest stars, which is really how co-founder Matt Saincome got his start. He was the lead singer in a hardcore band, and his whole shtick was to mock his punk peers.

MATT SAINCOME: There's a whole element of punk and hardcore about just extreme masculinity and being macho, being the toughest guy in the room. You know, you take your shirt off. And then there's also specific phrases that they all say.

CONWAY: There's something always about how we're all the misfits and the rejects, that we're all here and this one's for them sort of thing. You know, every song is for the kids in the back and all that.

SAINCOME: Exactly. There is this thing in the punk scene where we're all supposed to be equals, the bands and the fans. And we just kind of flipped4 that on its head. And we pretended like we were rock stars. Like, one time I demanded that the crowd mosh and stage dive before we even played, otherwise we wouldn't play.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

SAINCOME: You guys may or may not know, but we're the greatest band in hardcore. And we usually play bills that are a lot bigger than this. That's why we're headlining tonight. We're not going to play until you mosh.

(LAUGHTER)

SAINCOME: You're all lucky to see us tonight.

I just started talking about how we weren't going to play unless they started stage-diving. A kid just jumped right up on stage and...

CONWAY: (Laughter).

SAINCOME: ...Off he went.

MARTIN: I'm sure he was fine.

SAINCOME: Nope - RIP.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "STAGE DIVER")

ZERO PROGRESS: (Singing) Jump in the crowd. Run and go ahead. Jumped on a stage. Don't be afraid to dive (ph).

MARTIN: I understand your friends were a bit skeptical5 about this idea of creating a website dedicated6 to poking7 fun about punk.

CONWAY: Oh, yeah.

SAINCOME: Oh, absolutely.

MARTIN: (Laughter).

SAINCOME: When I was growing up in the punk scene, I had a zine, which is just a printed out little bootleg magazine. So I actually sat down and I wrote, like, four or five different Hard Times stories - this is in college. And I showed them to some of my friends. And they just blank, stone-faced read them. This isn't funny...

MARTIN: (Laughter).

SAINCOME: ...You're going to get beat up. Why would you do this? So they convinced me, pretty much. And I didn't do it for several years until I met Bill. And then Bill really believed in the idea. And it took off from there.

MARTIN: Wait, why were you going to get beat up?

SAINCOME: Well, the punk scene is naturally kind of a violent place.

MARTIN: Right. But it was because you were making fun of people and your friends were worried that the response would be you could come away with, like, some broken bones?

SAINCOME: Well, that was my expectation, too. I was surprised that we didn't get beat up.

(LAUGHTER)

CONWAY: We've only had one or two threats of physical violence, which is much lower than I had thought when we first started. Matt and I don't have any bylines8 on the site. Anything we write is just under The Hard Times Staff, under the impression we were going to get sucker punched at a show.

SAINCOME: Right.

MARTIN: So that was the bar - like, as long as we don't get sucker-punched. And so far, so good?

CONWAY: (Laughter) Yeah.

SAINCOME: There's a lot of radical9 beliefs in the punk scene, some of which Bill and I have. We're kind of weirdos. We don't smoke. We don't drink. And sometimes when you confront those ideologies10 with a bit of humor, the reaction is sometimes explosive.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "IN MY EYES")

MINOR11 THREAT: (Singing) You tell me you like the taste. You just need an excuse. You tell me it calms your nerve. You just think it looks cool. You tell me...

MARTIN: Is there one you guys want to read that you're particularly pleased with?

SAINCOME: I have a little bit of a story behind one headline. It's "Lucky Airline Passenger Wins Free Five-Hour Spoken Word Concert By Jello12 Biafra." Jello Biafra, the singer of the Dead Kennedys, is well-known for his long-winded explanations of things. And the band members in his new band even found it funny. And they were on a plane with him one time. And they were all taking photos with him with the caption13 being this headline. And you could see how much he didn't like it.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "CALIFORNIA UBER ALLES")

DEAD KENNEDYS: (Singing) California Uber Alles, California Uber Alles, Uber Alles California, Uber Alles California.

MARTIN: I'm going to draw attention to one that resonated with me personally. This is "Man Magically Transforms Into Music Historian While Talking To Women." And I'm going to have you read, like, the first three paragraphs of it.

CONWAY: Ah, yes. (Reading) "Man Magically Transforms Into Music Historian While Talking To Women" by Hana Michels, Seattle. Local man Brian Reynolds embarrassed himself again thanks to his unique skill of transforming into a historian of any music genre while in the presence of a woman. Those completely fed up with this [expletive] confirmed. It really comes out of nowhere - you never expect it, said Erik Felix, a friend who witnessed this obnoxious14 behavior on several occasions. Brian's usually pretty mild-mannered, but he'll suddenly change into this giant [expletive] of a music encyclopedia15 whenever he meets someone he's attracted to. Felix first noticed Reynolds' uncanny ability to mansplain at a downtown loft16 show in March.

MARTIN: (Laughter).

SAINCOME: I'm really glad that you related to some of the articles in the book. You don't have to be the type of person who goes to DIY basement shows. It's just a satirical perspective from people who go to DIY basement shows. But they also exist in the real world and have takes on all sorts of other stuff.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "REBEL GIRL")

BIKINI KILL: (Singing) Rebel girl, rebel girl, rebel girl, you are the queen of my world. Rebel girl, rebel girl, I think I want to take you home. I want to try on your clothes.

MARTIN: There is, as you describe it, a real preciousness in the culture, a culture where, you said at the beginning of the conversation, it's always like, this one's for the kids in the back. This is for all those misfits who always felt excluded. It's supposed to be a safe space for everybody, except it becomes sort of intolerant.

SAINCOME: Rachel, you figured it out.

MARTIN: Woohoo.

(LAUGHTER)

SAINCOME: You've got it nailed. This is the whole premise17 of the website. Yeah.

CONWAY: Yeah.

MARTIN: This is the whole thing.

(LAUGHTER)

MARTIN: But I guess my question is - besides just trying to sound smart about my insights into punk music - can people in the punk world take a joke?

SAINCOME: There is a sensitivity level in the punk scene which I think is elevated. But at the same time, I think The Hard Times comes from a place where it's - it really is a celebration of punk and hardcore, too. It's not that mean-spirited.

And we've actually grown to the point where 99% of the time when people get covered in our publication, they are ecstatic. Even really large musicians who we cover sometimes will retweet it. And they'll say, we finally made it. We're in The Hard Times.

(SOUNDBITE OF TITLE FIGHT SONG, "FROWN")

MARTIN: The book is called "The Hard Times: The First 40 Years." Matt Saincome and Bill Conway, thank you so much for talking with us.

CONWAY: Thank you, Rachel.

SAINCOME: Thanks for taking our time.

(SOUNDBITE OF TITLE FIGHT SONG, "FROWN")


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