Yeah.

        Where it's happening.

        Yeah.

        How are you? Are you devoted? Is all politics your life?

        You know it's funny because after that it feels so funny. It's interesting after the film I became color of South Sudan, South Sudan but like anybody I was really interested in what's going on, reading as much they could, taking me as much I could. I’m still like that way but it is over, it is a lot now. I mean, there's so much coming out you all the time. I think a lot of people are feeling this way. You know, you're just tired because a lot coming out at you all the time and not a lot that means anything. I think that's kind of true. I don't think that's dangerous to say any more. I see this the kind of. You know what I mean.

        People may have interest.

        I don't even, I don't even think like it hurts anybody's feelings any more to say that. You know what I mean it is, it is true, you know, and so, you know everyone is kind of waiting for something or someone to say something that hasn't been said yet or that needs to be said or that is going to go against what's obviously happening, which is just a lot of news, a lot of stuff, a lot of words, a lot of talking, a lot of shows, a lot of, you know, there's a lot of stuff.

        That seems to discuss the issue?

        That doesn't, that hasn't, you know, changed, you know, there is.

        Is there something new you want to say change?

        It's the same political.

        In this way we will be done.

        It's the same political games being played now as being played last.

        And where.

        There's nothing to change in that way, so you kind of go like, well, nothing is changing, then there is anything going to change? You know.

        Yeah, yeah.

        I thought, I’m feeling a little bit of that, but, I care, I care deeply, I care deeply. I think that's why.

        Is there an issue there, that I mean, that is in your head that you would like to see changing?

        That, that.

        That, the process of political.

        Absolutely, a political process, a political discourse is just retirement. It's you just don't believe it. I mean, you don't, I mean it's hard too. And then I know there's a lot of smart good-making of many people that are behind, you know are working for us given that I know they are. You know, I met some of them. And but when you see them, or when it's on, it’s over the news, over the media, it's very hard to take people seriously after a while because nothing seems to land.

        Do you see them acting, politicians.

        I don't know, I probably. 

        Yeah.

        But the politicians, yeah, that might think, the political way that when you started to see something real happened. And I don't think it’s because it has been a long time since we have seen that any consistent level, yeah, once in a while we see something. You know, once in a while, someone says something, or comes up with something or writes something, and we read it. But anybody who is in the high profile environment and their high profile ring it politically is a part of discourse that I think needs to change. I think everybody knows that. I don't think that's, that’s news. And I think that’s yeah, would be of my, it’s heart of my part.

        Yeah.