Mike: Well, it used to be 16, but it recently got pushed up to 18, now again each province controls its driving and the age limits, but in my province in Ontario the age limit went from 16 to 18.

　　Mark: And how did you feel about that? Do you think that's a good thing that you have to be 18 instead of 16?

　　Mike: Yeah, I tend, I think, I think it should be 18 or even 20 before you're allowed to drive.

　　Mark: Really! What do you think about someone who is 17, and so they've been driving for one year and then the law changes and becomes 18 as the minimum age, do you think that person who has been driving should lose their license for one more year?

　　Mike: Well, no, and I think generally, well, that happened in Ontario, of course that situation would have arisen. What happens then is generally laws are made so that the people who have been driving are then put into a system where they can still drive but they're under a probation system until 18, which is still the case, but

　　Mark: I see. So why do you think you should wait until you are 18 or 20 to be able to drive?

　　Mike: Maturity.

　　Mark: You don't think at 16 you're mature enough?

　　Mike: No. No. Because I think at 18 you're more adult, you're more responsible, just like you're not tried in the legal system as an adult until you are 18 years old. I think that it should be the same for driving because I don't think you're fully mature.

　　Mark: Yeah, I don't know if I agree because I feel like, I drove when I was 16.

　　Mike: So did I.

　　Mark: Yeah, and I felt mature enough. In fact, I know my father, when he was young, he actually began driving at about 12. When he was about 12 years old, he lived in the countryside and it was OK for him to drive at 12.

　　Mike: Well, and I can understand that because way back when there was a lot less traffic and there was a lot less, there was a lot less people on the road. I think that today, because of that, because traffic was a lot a worse, its a better idea to have, you know, to make sure the drivers is prepared and mature and understands that, what to do in case something goes wrong.

　　Mark: OK, fair enough, but how do you know that, that someone at 18, who has never driven is any more prepared than someone who's 16?

　　Mike: Well, you don't, but generally if somebody's older and more mature then they're gonna be a little bit wiser. I mean, I think, you know. They're just gonna make better decisions. I think so. That's just my opinion, but.

　　Mark: OK. Sounds good.