Mr horse, I've seen the oppose that other zoos prevent where we were just stepping in to make sure the giraffe was killed . why not do that? why killed the giraffe? Because, as first of all, because it was a to the publication .it is right and we got to offers from other zoos but we do not real offers because one of these zoos was already a part of breeding program.so they have been considered all rate when we did physic and analysis in the program to see why these made would fate in genetically. and the another one was outside the program and didn't work calling to the same  values as we do ,I mean that why not ceiling the animals we can exchange animals much for free  and we don't want to seal or we don't want to send all animal to places we don't know what happens to after we have delivered. what the worth that could happen to animals than been killed?  I mean you say you don't want to send it to places where you don't know what happened to it but you know what happened to it in your place.yeah of course,but the most important thing was that animals have a good life as long as they lives, been short life or long life, but they has to be a good life, I mean if you send it to a place where you can't take what the  for animal, you risk it going to what we called a standard place ,and then if we could leave their for 50 in 20 years standard confition that would been suffering for 20 years that is  not a way to work with animals.but doesn't the life in animal itself have some value rather than just they have been part of breeding program .yes it does, but as the value and that is why we say as value as long as the lives so we have a good life as long as they lives. 

 

but you think is that  you as long as  publishing 

 

yeah but we human beings want to controlling  animals' lives  all the time. we do it, for mastic animals,we do it for animals in the parks in the  on the open land ,we do it everywhere...years ago, you could say you utilize 20 or 30 healthy exhausted animals years,that still the case. 

yeah, it roughly is. this is an average what we take it because we and done it every year.and that's our everything from lamas coach and not only exit the exhausted animals but if you have being prove, if you want to breed and healthy publication you have to renewed publication horotely and you can only do that by breeding 

 

the other issue is all talk they in front of children and you said it is an educational experience was good for them  to see what the real world is. some those kids pretty young, do you still feel that way after the back you've got about this.  yes because I saw they all saw the reaction of the kids and parents .and what is really fascinating is to see how fascinating they became by seeing this and we've down it before not with the giraffe but with the bear ,with the wolves ,with snake and .and i think it is very important and to see the animals not only when they live but also when they died. i think we need some discussion out of life and death  .and that we show to our public and they maybe construe the differences between united sates and euro but in our country it is not that unusual. 

I appreciate your time 

you are welcome!