美国国家公共电台 NPR Advocates Say Trump Budget Cuts Will Hurt Country's Most Vulnerable（在线收听）

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There are a lot of critics of President Trump's budget proposal. Even members of his own party have said the plan is dead on arrival when it comes to Congress. Advocates for the poor are also expressing concern about the president's newly released budget plan. NPR's Pam Fessler reports.

PAM FESSLER, BYLINE: At a hearing in New York City this week, public housing resident Sheryl Braxton complained about all the problems where she lives.

SHERYL BRAXTON: We have more mold issues, garbage issues, a water issue with lead. And it's really bad.

FESSLER: The city has a backlog of about $17 billion in needed repairs for its aging public housing stock. But the federal program that funds the work would be severely threatened under President Trump's budget plan. He's proposed cutting $6 billion, or 13 percent, from the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which provides aid to more than 4 million families.

SUNIA ZATERMAN: The most vulnerable households, the most extremely low-income households. So it's very alarming.

FESSLER: Sunia Zaterman runs the Council of Large Public Housing Authorities. She says the cuts, which need congressional approval, would add to an already severe housing shortage for the poor.

ZATERMAN: Almost half of the occupants are either seniors or persons with disabilities. We have over 700,000 children living in public housing.

FESSLER: And she says many of these people would be affected by other cuts proposed in Trump's budget. He wants to eliminate legal services for the poor and money to help low-income families pay their heating bills. The budget would also get rid of the $3 billion Community Development Block Grant Program which cities use to fix up distressed neighborhoods, and the Community Services Block Grant, which funds local anti-poverty programs such as Meals on Wheels for homebound seniors.

DAN PRUETT: I can't understand why something like that would be cut.

FESSLER: Dan Pruett runs Meals on Wheels Central Texas, which gets a third of its funding from the government. He says the meals they deliver allow many low-income seniors to stay in their homes, something that might now be threatened.

PRUETT: I would say that the number of people having to go to nursing home care or some alternative type of care that's more expensive, that's very real. So we save the taxpayers money, no question about it.

FESSLER: But Trump officials say they too want to save the taxpayers money and that the programs targeted for cuts are wasteful and ineffective. OMB director Mick Mulvaney said that includes community block grants that fund things like Meals on Wheels. He says the government's spent billions of dollars with little to show for it.

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MICK MULVANEY: We cannot defend that anymore. We're $20 trillion in debt. We're going to spend money. We're going to spend a lot of money. But we're not going to spend it on programs that cannot show that they actually deliver the promises that we've made to people.

FESSLER: But anti-poverty advocates insist there is evidence that not helping the poor hurts in the long run. Olivia Golden runs CLASP, the Center for Law and Social Policy. She notes that the administration wants to shift money from low-income Americans to spend more on defense, security and law enforcement.

OLIVIA GOLDEN: I think you'll hear a lot of mayors pointing out that on the justice side the way to achieve safety is not to take away training, summer employment, youth resources and put it all on the backend. So I think it's a very counterproductive budget.

FESSLER: And that's the argument anti-poverty groups will take to Capitol Hill, where many Republicans agree with Trump that domestic spending should be trimmed. How much is what lawmakers will start debating soon. Pam Fessler, NPR News, Washington.

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