访谈录 Interview 2007-02-15&17, 让浪漫的电影情节营造气氛(在线收听

Sharyn Alfonsi: You wanna a nice cozy evening at home with a romantic movie. Let’s pick some good ones from David Edelstein ---- a critic for New York Magazine and contributor to CBS Sunday Morning, and with Entertainment Weekly’s film critic ---- Lisa Schwarzbaum. Welcome to you both.

Lisa Schwarzbaum : Thank you.

David Edelstein: Thank you

Sharyn Alfonsi: You guys have some very interesting picks here. Lisa, let’s start with yours. Your first one is a film from 1945 --- Brief Encounter.

Lisa Schwarzbaum: Yes, it’s very very sexy. It’s two married people do not consummate their affair.

Sharyn Alfonsi:Oh, practically not in halfway.

Lisa Schwarzbaum: Nothing gets more glamorous than that. No, this is no category script, David Lynn’s direction. It is a masterpiece of holding back and I think since it was made during WWII, it was all about sacrifice and keeping things together and it’s just brimming with the unexpressed and the unacted-upon.

Sharyn Alfonsi: Tortured love is the best kind, right?
Lisa Schwarzbaum: It’s my favorite kind of movie.
Sharyn Alfonsi: David?

David Edelstein: Unconsummated love is the best kind. I, I, see I gravitate more toward movies where the characters go pass the infatuation part, pass like freaking, hating each other and then kind of fall back in love --- Stanley Cavell, the philosopher called it the comedy of remarriage and that’s why my favorite movie of all time is The Lady Eve in which Harry Fonda learns that Barbara Stanwyck is basically a skunk and but she tricks him into thinking she is somebody else and he falls in love with her again. And he learns that, you know, they are never as great as you think, but they are never as bad as you think either. They were all just human.
Lisa Schwarzbaum: See, actually …

Sharyn Alfonsi: Further X-ray is about an hour particularly shows.

David Edelstein: what we suppose.

Sharyn Alfonsi: Who was broken up with on Valentine’s Day? It’s not these things.

Lisa Schwarzbaum: Boys and girls.

Sharyn Alfonsi: Exactly. Lisa, you have a really other interesting picture Truly Madly Deeply, a little more recent. He died; she ends up lonely with grasp again. So romantic

Lisa Schwarzbaum: Yes,. Yes, because she loves him so much that Alan Rickman comes back to Juliet Stevenson. She’s just one of the great crying scenes of all time. One of the things I love about this is in pairing this two together is that in fact that Alan Rickman and his ghost friends sit around watching Brief Encounter on television---- perfect perfect little connection. It’s just wonderful and in fact she does learn to move on and find a lovely new man in her life who is living. So that’s a good thing.

Sharyn Alfonsi:A little more updated.
David Edelstein: Great Valentine’s movie ‘cause it is about grief, you know,

Lisa Schwarzbaum: That’s me.

David Edelstein: about moving through grief. So, yes, so, the Shop Around The Corner, a lot of people know this movie. It was a musical She Loves Me, about two people who worked side by side and hated each other’s guts, but in fact, they had this whole secret life as pen pals and it is when you learn, that you know, the surface is one thing, the soul is another thing. And you know, it’s all crazy and mixed-up and it makes up sense.

Lisa Schwarzbaum: And it’s quite the same as You’ve Got Mail.

Sharyn Alfonsi: That’s what I wanna ask.

David Edelstein: Oh, no. We are still waiting for the…

Sharyn Alfonsi: we are friends of you, we can’t even talk about Meg Ryan this day, this is little still highbrow.
David Edelstein: We are waiting for the great internet version of this story; it’s not You’ve Got Mail.
Sharyn Alfonsi: David, you have another one. It’s really an interesting one, a depressing one, Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind.

David Edelstein: Violent, violent, emotionally violent. That’s about…

Sharyn Alfonsi: They, they have a surgery to have each other removed, you know, from their mind, how romantic is that though.

David Edelstein: But they can’t. They loathe each other, but, no, they loathe each other, they come to loathe each other, Jim Kerry and Kate Winslet loathe each other and yet even after a surgery to purge the memories, they cannot get themselves out of their heads. So here is my design for living, for in-and-out of love with the same person all your life.

Sharyn Alfonsi: Ok.

Lisa Schwarzbaum: Another theory.

Sharyn Alfonsi: And then have a surgery to remove them from your brain. Let’s end on a more romantic note you can’t go on without Casablanca.

Lisa Schwarzbaum: You, you, Casablanca, there is what else do you need… or then you can start quoting all the absolute beautiful lines from it, the beautiful angles of Ingrid Bergman’s chin tilted up, Rick, Elsa, I mean you can watch this every single year.

Sharyn Alfonsi: Ok, that’s all good. That’s my picks. Thank you so much.
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