Roe: OK 好的。

Todd: Yeah, tell us about your first job. 跟我们谈谈你的第一份工作。

Roe: You mean my official full-time first job, talking about! 你是指谈谈我的第一份正式的全职工作！

Todd: Yeah, sure. How about that? 是的，没错。你的第一份工作怎么样？

Roe: OK. That was right after graduating university. I became a salesman. 好的。那时我刚从大学毕业。我成为了一名销售人员。

Todd: Oooh, salesman! Nice. 唔，销售！很棒。

Roe: Yep, salesman. 是的，一名销售。

Todd: What were you selling? 你销售的产品是什么？

Roe: I was selling nothing. 我什么都不卖。

Todd: Nothing 什么都不卖？

Roe: Nothing. Well, basically I was selling a membership. So, that's, it's not something people can see or visualize, but it's like just membership, so. 什么都不卖。实际上，我销售的是一种身份。它不是人们能够看到的实体产品，而是一种会员身份。

Todd: Was it like a membership to a country club? 就像乡村俱乐部的会员身份一样？

Roe: Yeah, actually a private resorts and golf clubs. 是的，实际上那是一家私人度假村和高尔夫俱乐部。

Todd: Nice. Was this in Japan or in the US? 真棒，那是在日本还是在美国？

Roe: In Japan. 在日本。

Todd: Wow. What was the best thing about your job? 哇。这份工作最好的地方在于？

Roe: Troubles! Cause I have to knock on people's houses. 麻烦！因为我得去挨家挨户地去敲门。

Todd: Oh, wow, it was door to door. 哇，挨家挨户啊。

Roe: Exactly without any appointments and membership costs 5 million yen. Starting, starting costs. 是的，没有任何预约的敲门访问，而且会员费要500万日元。而这只是入会费。

Todd: 5 million yen to start and you must have been in very rich neighborhoods. 500万日元的入会费，那你肯定要去很高档的社区了。

Roe: No, actually we just go to any areas. We just stop off at a station and we start from there. 不，实际上我们是什么社区都要去。随便一站下车后就开展工作了。

Todd: Really. Were you successful? 真的吗，那你的工作进展顺利吗？

Roe: It's a long story but to be honest with you, how many memberships do you think I sold in a year? 说来话长，但坦白讲，你认为我一年能够介绍多少会员入会？

Todd: Wow, I don't know. I will take a guess. In one year, maybe one, two a week, so my guess is, I don't know, a hundred. 哇，我不知道。我试着猜测一下。一年内也许有……一周有1,2名，所以我猜……我不知道，一百名？

Roe: One! 一名！

Todd: One! One! 一名！

Roe: Can you believe it! 你能相信吗！

Todd: So you must, so you remember the lucky person? Probably still remember that person. 那你肯定对你唯一的客户印象很深刻了？也许至今还记得他。

Roe: And you know what, the person who bought my membership, is who? My father. 你知道吗，是谁通过我的介绍入会？我的父亲。

Todd: Ooh, that's a tough job. 哦，这项工作真的很艰巨。

Roe: It was rough, really. It was really rough. 真的很艰苦，真的。很艰苦。

Todd: That's a lot of rejection, every day. No, no, no 每天都会被很多人拒绝，总是听到人说no，no，no。

Roe: I know, I mean if you think about it, that's natural though, I mean 5 million yen. and I can't really show the place, cause I can't take the person to the place. all I can do is show the picture and speak and that was right after the bubble economy bursted, so nobody had really, nobody had money, so. 我知道，我是说如果你仔细想想，这就是很自然的事，500万日元啊。而且我无法展示俱乐部场所，因为我不能带客户过去参观。我能做的只是展示图片并且介绍，而且那正是在产生经济泡沫之后，所以没有人真的想入会，也没有人有这个闲钱。

Todd: Wow, man so were you depressed? Were you sad? 哇，兄弟，那你沮丧吗？难过吗？

Roe: It was very interesting. It was hard to motivate myself. The people would call the police, and call me like a robber Yeah, yeah, cause I had to like open the gate and run to the door and stick my leg so that they won't shut the door. 很有趣。这份工作很难激励我的斗志。人们会报警称我是强盗，所以我只能打开院门，小跑到房门前用腿顶住门缝，以防他们关上屋门。

Todd: Seriously. 你是认真的？

Roe: Yeah, that's how you do it. Door to door sells. 是的，是你也会这么做。这就是挨家挨户的销售。

Todd: Wow, that's, that's a tough job. I don't think I could do a job, what's your job now? What do you do now? 哇，真是一项艰苦的工作。我不认为我能胜任这份工作，你现在在做什么？从事什么职业？

Roe: I am, I work for Yokohama city and I am in a place called Yokohama Convention Bureau. It's a city job. 我在横滨市横滨会议局工作。这是一份市政工作。

Todd: OK, so the Yokohama Convention Bureau. OK, so you deal with foreigners, naturally cause it's in English. 好的，横滨会议局。那么你主要和外国人打交道，自然是说英语了。

Roe: And travellers and visitors and what have you. 还有旅客和游客

Todd: Do you like your job now? 你热爱你现在的工作吗？

Roe: Interesting! Like I said I meet talk to about over 2,000 people a day, so it's kind of tiring though. 很有趣！如我所说的，我每天能和2000多人打交道，因此也是一份很辛苦的工作。

Todd: Wow, 2,000 people a day. 哇，一天接触2000多人。

Roe: About 200 people an hour. My office is at the station. Yokohama station. Right out of the gate of the JR, so people are going to stop by. 大概一小时有200人。我的办公室就在横滨站。就在日本铁路公司对面，所以经常有人顺便去看看我。

Todd: You, that's a lot of talking. You must be tired of talking. 我们谈了很多，你一定很累了吧。

Roe: I am tired. 是的，很累。

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