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President Trump took a victory lap today at the White House, celebrating what he called total acquittal in the Senate impeachment trial. And he slammed Democrats for pursuing impeachment over a request he made to the Ukrainian president to investigate his political rivals.

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: We went through hell unfairly, did nothing wrong — did nothing wrong. I've done things wrong in my life, I will admit...

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TRUMP: ...Not purposely — but I've done things wrong. But this is what the end result is.

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CORNISH: The president's unscripted remarks lasted more than an hour. NPR White House correspondent Tamara Keith was there. Welcome back, Tam.

TAMARA KEITH, BYLINE: Hi, Audie.

CORNISH: What was it like in that room?

KEITH: So this was essentially a victory rally in the East Room of the White House, with the president surrounded by everyone who stuck with him through impeachment. I'll just let President Trump describe what it was.

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TRUMP: And this is really not a news conference. It's not a speech. It's not anything. It's just — we're sort of — it's a celebration.

KEITH: There was no teleprompter. He had a few notes on paper. There was a lot of riffing. At one point, he held up today's Washington Post with the headline "Trump Acquitted." And you know, a big part of this hourlong event was just President Trump going through the names of members of Congress who he called warriors, who helped him through impeachment.

And there were a lot of weird comments. When he got to House majority — House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, Trump went on for a long time describing the congressional baseball shooting, where Scalise was severely injured.

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TRUMP: I think you set a record for blood loss. And Steve Scalise, I — actually — honestly, I think you're better-looking now. You're more handsome now. You — you weren't that good-looking.

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TRUMP: You look good now.

KEITH: Trump also said that he wished President Lincoln were there because he'd, quote, "give him one hell of an introduction."

CORNISH: The president also had sharp words for people like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Utah Senator Mitt Romney — right? — the only Republican to vote to convict Trump, at least on that first article of impeachment.

KEITH: Yeah, this was not a day for forgiving and forgetting. In fact, this morning at the National Prayer Breakfast, he ripped into both of them. He didn't say their names, but it was clear who he was talking about. And at the time, Pelosi was seated just a few feet away from him.

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TRUMP: I don't like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong, nor do I like people who say, I pray for you, when they know that that's not so.

KEITH: I mean, it was really personal, and then it continued back in the East Room. He wrote Romney off as a failed presidential candidate and further went after House Democrats as vicious, mean, horrible, a lot of other words. Trump also renewed his complaints about the investigations into him and his campaign. He called the Russia investigation something we cannot say on the radio and explained at length why his call with the president of Ukraine was, in his words, perfect.

So in other words, he was delivering a pretty clear rebuttal to the Republican senators who said they thought that he had learned something from the experience of impeachment.

CORNISH: How does that compare to former President Bill Clinton? I mean, after his impeachment trial in 1999, I recall him expressing remorse for his actions, said he hoped for reconciliation and renewal. I mean, did President Trump do anything in that direction?

KEITH: Yeah, I mean, these remarks couldn't have been more different. Clinton spoke for two minutes in the Rose Garden in 1999, and it was all about trying to move on. What Trump did was defiant, though at one point he did apologize to his family.

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TRUMP: For having them have to go through a phony, rotten deal by some very evil and sick people.

CORNISH: What now? Doesn't sound like he's going to be forgiving. What can we expect going into an election year?

KEITH: Yeah. The State of the Union this week and today's remarks are a pretty clear indication that we are headed straight into election season — though in his remarks today, President Trump did express some wistfulness about an inability to work across the aisle on prescription drug pricing. That's something that he would like to accomplish, he says. But even his own party's pretty divided on that.

CORNISH: That's NPR White House correspondent Tamara Keith. Thanks for your reporting.

KEITH: You're welcome.

今天,特朗普总统在白宫绕场一周,庆祝他所称的在参议院弹劾审判中获得“完全无罪”的结果。同时,他还对民主党人进行了抨击,因为后者就他要求乌克兰总统调查他的政治对手一事进行弹劾。

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唐纳德·特朗普总统:我们不公平地经历了地狱般的苦难,我没做错任何事,没有任何不当行为。我承认,我这一生做错过一些事情……

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特朗普:虽然不是有意的,但我确实做错过一些事。但这就是最终结果。

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柯尼什:总统的脱稿讲话持续了一个多小时。NPR新闻驻白宫记者塔玛拉·基思当时在现场。欢迎回来,塔姆。

塔玛拉·基思连线:你好,奥迪。

柯尼什:现场情况怎么样?

基思:基本上来说,这就是在白宫东厅进行的胜利集会,在整个弹劾案进程中支持总统的每个人都陪在他身边。下面来听一下特朗普总统的描述。

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特朗普:这真的不是新闻发布会,也不是演讲。与这些都无关。倒有点像是一场庆祝。

基思:现场没有电子提词器。总统在纸上写了一些笔记。大部分是即兴讲话。他在演讲中一度举起了今天的《华盛顿邮报》,头版标题是《特朗普无罪》。在这场持续了一个小时的讲话中,特朗普大部分时间在一一提及他称之为“勇士”的国会议员的名字,这些人帮助他通过了弹劾。

特朗普还发表了一些奇怪的言论。在提到众议院少数党党鞭史蒂夫·斯卡利斯时,特朗普用很长时间描述了导致斯卡利斯严重受伤的国会棒球场枪击案。

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特朗普:我认为你创下了失血纪录。史蒂夫·斯凯利斯,说实话,我觉得你现在更帅了。你现在更帅了。你以前没这么帅气。

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特朗普:你现在看起来很好。

基思:特朗普还表示,他希望林肯总统在现场,因为他会“给他好好介绍一下”。

柯尼什:总统还对众议院议长南希·佩洛西和犹他州参议员米特·罗姆尼进行了尖锐的批评,对吧?罗姆尼是唯一一名投票支持定罪特朗普的共和党议员,至少就第一项弹劾指控来说。

基思:对,今天并不是原谅和遗忘的日子。事实上,今天早上,特朗普在全美祈祷早餐会上对这两个人都进行了抨击。他并没有直接提到名字,但显然大家都知道他指的是谁。而当时,佩洛西所坐的位置距离他只有几英尺。

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特朗普:我既不喜欢那些用自己的信仰为自己所犯错误辩护的人,也不喜欢违背心意说“我为你祈祷”的人。

基思:这是相当私人的问题,之后这种情况在白宫东厅再次上演。他认为罗姆尼是一个失败的总统候选人,并进一步指责众议院民主党人“恶毒,尖酸刻薄,可怕”等等。特朗普再次对他和他的竞选团队遭遇的调查进行控诉。他称“通俄门”调查是无法在广播中提到的事件,并详细解释了为什么他与乌克兰总统的通话——用他的话来说——是完美的。

换句话说,他对那些认为自己从弹劾经历中学到东西的共和党参议员进行了明确的反驳。

柯尼什:这与前总统比尔·克林顿相比如何?克林顿的弹劾审判在1999年进行,审判后他对自己的行为表达了歉意,称他希望和解和复兴。那特朗普总统在这方面做了什么?

基思:二人的言论完全不同。1999年,克林顿在玫瑰花园的讲话只有两分钟,而且内容全部与试图继续前进有关。而特朗普却是在挑衅,尽管他在讲话中有向家人道歉。

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特朗普:我让他们经历了一些非常邪恶和病态的人做出的虚伪、糟糕的交易。

柯尼什:那现在呢?听起来他不会选择原谅。在这个选举年我们能期待些什么?

基思:对。他在本周发表的国情咨文和今天的讲话已经明确表明,我们正直奔选举季——尽管特朗普总统在今天的讲话中表达了他的失意,因为无法让两党就处方药定价问题达成一致。他说这是他想完成的事情。但就连他自己的政党在这一问题上也存在严重分歧。

柯尼什:以上是NPR新闻驻白宫记者塔玛拉·基思带来的报道。非常谢谢你的报道。

基思:不客气。

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