PBS高端访谈:俄亥俄枪击案调查和受害者情况（在线收听）

Hari Sreenivasan: For more on the investigation and the victims in Ohio, Jim Bebbington, editor of The Dayton Daily News joins us now via Skype. Thanks for being with us. First, let's focus on the victims here. What do we know about the people that were gunned down last night?

Jim Bebbington: Well, we are still putting all of that together. It was a group that included the shooter's sister. That was a new revelation just a short while ago. So we're looking into family dynamics and family issues as to whether that played any role. The others are a very cross section of Dayton. A majority of the victims were African-American last night but there were white victims as well. And it was a group that just locally, I would have thought would be a typical Oregon District crowd on the sidewalk on a Saturday night.

Hari Sreenivasan: And what about all of the people that were taken to hospitals? We heard this morning that a number of them had already been discharged.

Jim Bebbington: Correct. There was one person that was described as being in critical condition and needing to go into surgery. And then there were many people who were discharged already by the time they gave any information out. With everything from shoot in wounds to sprained ankles and cuts from the chaos of escaping.

Hari Sreenivasan: This is a tremendous amount of carnage in a minute if that's how long it took for police to respond.

Jim Bebbington: Absolutely. I mean it is something we are also still trying to piece together. The videos that we have seen, we've seen some surveillance videos from neighboring facilities or neighboring bars that add their own cameras out front. And it absolutely it doesn't even look like it takes a minute, it looks like it takes 30 seconds from the videos that I've seen, spraying a crowd, people running going down and then the video that I've seen in particular things calm down almost immediately.

Hari Sreenivasan: Is there anything more about the motivations of the person who did this that's becoming any clearer now?

Jim Bebbington: Well we know 24-year-old gentleman who grew up in our area. We've been looking to speak to anyone who knew him growing up, mining social media. There are some images that if they are him show when he was a young teenager a predilection towards some fairly violent language that he liked to take pictures of, sketching us into notebooks that he would then share on social media. So that is what we're seeing.

Hari Sreenivasan: Any sort of membership and any organizations or nowadays now everybody is kind of interested in message board postings and was there anything like that before this shooter unlike the one in El Paso who decided to perhaps, law enforcement officials are still connecting the dots there?

Jim Bebbington: Again I wish we knew. We have not found anything to that effect. There are some reports of some family dynamic problems that do go back many years. And so that is actually part of our most focus right now.

Hari Sreenivasan: And what about that district now? Are people back there or the businesses open? Have they just stayed close through the weekend? Is it still an active crime scene?

Jim Bebbington: It is still an active crime scene through the afternoon. There is a evening vigil that is planned right on the street itself after which point the street will be opened up, the crime tape will be taken out. The bars and restaurants in that area some are open this afternoon. The ones that are a block or two away away from the scene.

Hari Sreenivasan: All right. Editor of the Dayton Daily News Jim Bebbington joining us via Skype from Dayton thanks so much.

Jim Bebbington: Thank you.

哈里·斯里尼瓦桑：为了更多有关俄亥俄州调查以及受害者情况的话，我们将通过Skype与《代顿每日新闻》的记者吉姆连线。感谢加入，吉姆。首先，我们先关注一下那里受害者的情况。我们目前了解到关于昨晚受到枪机的人的情况如何呢？

吉姆：受害者情况还在不断更新了解中。受害者群体中包括开枪者的妹妹。这个消息也是刚才才得知的。所以，我们还在了解受害者的家庭情况和家庭问题，想知道家庭因素对于这起事件的影响。其他受害者来自代顿的社会各界。昨晚的大多数受害者都是非裔美籍人，但是其中也有白人受害者。受害者都是代顿当地人，我猜想是周六晚上的人行道上有俄勒冈州地区的人群。

哈里·斯里尼瓦桑：那送往医院的伤者情况如何了呢？我们今早听说，很多人已经出院了。

吉姆：是的。有一人伤情严重，需要做手术。消息传出的时候，有很多人都已经出院了。受伤情况有很多，比如枪伤、脚踝扭伤、慌乱逃跑时受的伤。

哈里·斯里尼瓦桑：如果以警方响应时间的来判断的话，这次的枪击事件可谓是屠杀级别的。

吉姆：确实是这样。这次的事件，我们也还在整理情况。我们看到了一些视频，视频是附近街区或者酒吧里的监控录像（酒吧有外置摄像头）。从视频来看，事件持续时间不是一分钟，看起来像是30秒钟——向人群开火。有人跑下去，然后迅速就安静下来了。

哈里·斯里尼瓦桑：作案人的动机现在明了了吗？

吉姆：我们了解到，作案人24岁，是在代顿长大的年轻人。我们还在试着采访见证他长大过程的人，并全方位通过社交媒体去了解。有一些图像里看到有人长得像他，图像显示，他喜欢说暴力字眼，也喜欢给这样的话截屏。我们还看到他在社交媒体上分享的一些笔记。这是我们目前了解到的情况。

哈里·斯里尼瓦桑：现在，很多很多人和组织都喜欢在留言板上贴东西。请问该作案人之前有做过这样的事情吗？执法人员有找到这次事件和厄尔巴索事件之间的关系吗？

吉姆：这个问题，我现在也还没法给准确的答复。我们目前还没发现蛛丝马迹。有报道称，作案人的行为跟多年前的家庭内部问题有关。所以，现在家庭问题是我们最关注的一个问题。

哈里·斯里尼瓦桑：枪击案发生的街区怎么样了呢？那里的人怎么样了？店铺都还开着吗？他们一整个周末是不是都一直待在一起？现在案件发生现场人多吗？

吉姆：整个下午，人都很多。整条街上进行了一晚上的守夜。在那之后，这条街才开放，那时候才能拿到作案录像。该地区的许多酒吧和餐厅下午都开着。离作案现场大概一两个街区。

哈里·斯里尼瓦桑：好的。感谢《代顿每日新闻》的吉姆通过Skype为我们发回代顿的报道。

吉姆：谢谢大家。