纪录片《深入暗网》 第19期 电脑监控（在线收听）

Well, it's sad to me but it is really no surprise

这令我感到难过但却未出乎意料

that the privacy issue has unfolded the way it has.

隐私问题就那样展现在人们面前

I spelled it out in the early publications in the '80s.

我在八十年代发表的文章中阐述了这个问题

Chaum's papers explained that in a future world

乔姆的文章解释了在未来

where we would increasingly use computers,

随着我们更频繁地使用电脑

it would be easy to conduct mass surveillance.

大规模监控会变得很简单

Chaum wanted to find a way to stop it.

乔姆想阻止这一趋势

I always had a deep feeling that

我一直深信

privacy is intimately tied to human potential

隐私与人类潜能紧密相连

and that it's an extraordinarily important aspect of democracy.

并且也是民主极其重要的表现

Chaum focused on the new technology of e-mails.

乔姆将精力放在了电子邮件的新技术上

Anyone watching the network

任何监控网络的人

through which these messages travelled

都能通过查看某人的往来信息

could find out enormous amounts about that person.

找到关于这个人的很多信息

He wanted to make this more difficult.

他想让这一过程变得更困难