PBS高端访谈:拜登的基础设施投资百年一遇,引起各州争抢（在线收听）

Tomorrow night, President Biden gives his first address to Congress. Among other things, he is expected to talk about his large infrastructure and jobs plan.

明天晚上，拜登总统将首次向国会发表演讲。预计他将谈到他的大型基础设施和就业计划。

But few realize that is just one of the major infrastructure bills rolling in Washington. You could call it a pile of opportunity that has states scrambling.

但很少有人意识到，这这只是华盛顿正在进行的主要基础设施法案之一。你可以把它称为一堆让各州争先恐后的机会。

Our Lisa Desjardins is here to help us all follow the money. Hello to Lisa. So, Lisa, tell us, what is it that Congress is considering, and why is this historic?

下面和丽莎·德斯加丁斯连线追踪这笔款项。那么，丽莎，跟我们说说，国会是怎么考虑的，为什么说这是历史性的？

Judy, I know people have heard infrastructure week for so long, but, listen, this is the time to pay attention,

朱迪，我知道大家听说基础设施周已经很久了，但是，听着，现在是集中关注的时候了，

because what we have here right now is not just a once-in-a-generation influx of spending on infrastructure,

因为这不仅仅是一代一次的基础设施投资，

but perhaps a once-in-a-century type of spending on infrastructure. And I want to clear up exactly what's happening.

可能是百年一遇的基础设施投资。我想弄清楚到底发生了什么。

Let's go through the four different ways that Congress is trying to spend money on infrastructure.

我们回顾一下国会试图在基础设施上投入资金的四种不同方式。

First, the American Rescue Plan, that was that big bill passed in March. That is already in law, $350 billion that states can use for many types of infrastructure.

首先是美国救援计划，这是三月份通过的重大法案。3500亿美元的资金已经纳入法律，各州可以用于多种类型的基础设施建设。

Next, happening now, water, energy and highway bills. Those are authorization bills.

接下来正在着手的是水、能源和高速公路账单。这些是授权法案。

They don't spend the money yet, but they really get the pipeline moving. And those right now are bipartisan.

他们还没有花钱，但管道真的开动了，而这些现在都是两党合作的。

In addition to those bills, we are also seeing the return of earmarks.

除了这些法案之外，我们还看到了专项拨款的回归。

Democrats in the House and the Senate would like to bring back earmarks for the appropriations bills and for some transportation ideas, but for those annual spending bills,

参众两院的民主党人想要恢复拨款法案和一些交通理念的专项拨款，但是对于那些年度支出法案，

so that every member of Congress, for example, could say, I want money for this bridge or this road.

这样，例如，国会的每个成员都可以说我需要钱来修建这座桥或这条路。

And it's interesting, because the deadline to get those project proposals in for every member of Congress is this week in the House.

这很有趣，因为每个国会议员都必须在本周提交这些项目提案。

And last thing, we know the Biden jobs plan, as you mentioned, that's expected to be hundreds of billions of dollars just in and of itself.

最后一件事，我们知道拜登就业计划，就像你提到的，预计其本身就会有数千亿美元。

Judy, talking to congressional offices that are well-managed offices, especially in the House, they are inundated by counties and cities asking them for more information about how they can get this money,

朱迪，我采访了一些管理良好的国会办公室，尤其是众议院的办公室，很多县和城市向他们询问更多关于如何获得这笔资金、

how they can request things like earmarks. Again, the deadline for that one, for those requests is this week.

如何申请专项拨款之类的的信息。同样，这些请求的截止日期是本周。

So, state and local governments would have a lot to do with all this. How are they approaching it?

所以，州和地方政府与这一切有很大关系。他们是如何接近的？

Well, I want to play a bite by someone who's paying very close attention to this. And that is Representative David Price of North Carolina.

我想让一个密切关注此事的人说一下，这位是北卡罗来纳州众议员大卫·普莱斯。

He chairs the Subcommittee on Transportation for House Appropriations, just to give you a feel for how frenetic this is.

他是众议院拨款运输小组委员会的主席，让你们感受一下这有多疯狂。

This is a huge moment for those who care about infrastructure to pull out all the stops and try to get it done.

对于那些关心基础设施建设的人来说这是一个非常重要的时刻，他们要竭尽全力，努力把它完成。

I guarantee you that most congressional offices are scrambling right now to deal with the requests that are coming in.

我向你们保证，大多数国会办公室现在都在忙着处理收到的申请。

And then, at the same time, states are getting ready to get that American Rescue Plan money that has been passed, and they're trying to deliberate how they will spend it.

然后，与此同时，各州正准备得到已经通过的美国救援计划的资金，他们正在考虑如何使用这些资金。

So, I want to look at what we know some states are considering for that Rescue Plan money that should be arriving in the next couple of weeks.

所以，我想看看我们所知道的一些州正在考虑的救援计划资金应该在未来几周到达。

For example, Florida is considering some major environmental cleanups and replenishing one of their big transportation funds.

例如，佛罗里达州正在考虑进行一些重大的环境清理，并补充他们的一大笔交通资金。

In Maine, they're talking about a major broadband push that could bring broadband out to some of the most rural areas of that state.

在缅因州，他们正在讨论一个主要的宽带推进计划，将宽带引入该州最偏远的一些农村地区。

And in counties across the country, like Lake County, Indiana, we're talking roads, bridges, sewers, county buildings.

在全国各地的县，比如印第安纳州的莱克县，我们谈论的是道路、桥梁、下水道和县建筑。

This, Judy, is something, this is money that is going to every single county in this country. Sometimes, it's as much as a third or more of their annual budget.

朱迪，这笔钱将流向这个国家的每一个县。有时，这相当于他们年度预算的三分之一或更多。

I can't stress enough what a major kind of influx of cash this could be across the country.

我要强调的是，这将为全国带来巨大的资金流入。

So important to be talking about this, Lisa. And, as you're saying, people are paying attention from one end of the country to the other.

谈论这个很重要，丽莎。正如你所说，全国都在关注。

Lisa Desjardins, who will continue to watch this story very closely. Thank you, Lisa.

丽莎·德斯贾丁斯，她会继续密切关注。谢谢，丽莎。