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美国国家公共电台 NPR--A woman changed her views on abortion after she had to make the decision for herself

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A woman changed her views on abortion1 after she had to make the decision for herself

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NPR's Rachel Martin talks to a woman in Los Angeles, who had grown up religious, and faced a decision she never thought she would. She explains how her abortion changed her views on abortion-rights.

RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

Yesterday, we brought you the story of a woman who reevaluated her anti-abortion views after she adopted her daughter and developed a close relationship with her birth mother. Today, we're going to hear from a woman whose beliefs around abortion changed after she had to make the decision for herself.

V: Over the years, I have become a little more comfortable. I still won't tell the world without using a pseudonym3.

MARTIN: We're calling her by her initial, V, to protect her anonymity4. She's a 39-year-old mortgage manager from LA. She grew up in a culturally Catholic home. But around when she was 14, she started going to an evangelical Christian5 church with a friend. When she was in her 20s, the church had become her life.

V: Church was everything. I was a leader in several ministries6. All my friends were from church. I dated people within the church. I moved to be closer to my church, even.

MARTIN: Then, she met a guy, and they got serious.

V: We were so careful. We used multiple forms of contraception that I did not think that I really was. I thought it was really bad PMS.

MARTIN: V had broken up with her boyfriend six weeks earlier. She was 30 years old. She took the pregnancy7 test alone in her apartment bathroom.

V: I saw the first line and said, OK, we're good. And then the second line appeared almost right away. I didn't even look at the package again. I knew in my heart of hearts that it was right.

MARTIN: She called her ex-boyfriend.

V: I just said, I'm pregnant, and I think I might want an abortion. And I couldn't believe I was saying that. We were not on good terms at all. At that time, my only thought was, I can't imagine him being part of my life forever.

MARTIN: When V was in high school, she actually tried to talk friends and acquaintances out of getting abortions8. Now here she was on the other side. Her cousin flew in from the East Coast to go with her to the appointment. Nine years later, she still remembers walking into that clinic.

V: There was a lot of chalk on the sidewalk. I had to walk past anything from, please don't do this to, don't commit murder to, your child is a child of God. You know, I had been fasting for, like, 12 hours. I couldn't sleep. I was still very nauseous. And I just remember thinking to myself, you don't know what it's like. Like, you're not walking in my shoes. And I got a little angry at it.

MARTIN: So it didn't make you less resolved?

V: I think I was very numb9. To be blunt, I wanted to get it over with because I was afraid I would change my mind.

MARTIN: Did you let yourself imagine what that alternative reality would be?

V: I did many times. It was in my mind every day since I found out that I was pregnant. I was trying to come up with a way where I would feel good about not having the abortion and keeping the child. All I could think of was I had been laid off for the entire year due to the recession. I was basically sleeping on friends' couches for a little bit, borrowing money from my parents. I was not financially in any kind of place where I would want a child to be living, to be honest. But I wanted and still want kids more than anything.

MARTIN: Over the next few days, V felt relief. But then came the other emotions.

V: I was still an evangelical Christian at the time and still believing 100% that I had committed murder, that I'd murdered my child. All this guilt10 just started flooding in. I felt like I was this awful person. I didn't really believe that I deserved any happiness. At the same time, though, I couldn't shake the fact that deep down, if the situation presented itself again, I would probably do it again.

MARTIN: V still believes she made the best choice for herself. And that whole experience changed her larger views about abortion.

V: I dodge11 the question if anyone ever asked me if I'm pro-choice or pro-life because I think it's so nuanced because in many ways, I'm pro-life. That's why I vote for more progressive policies on welfare, and I want people to live their best lives. But I think a woman can only decide what is best for her personal life.

MARTIN: How have you made sense of it within your own faith?

V: That whole period of time was full of soul searching because if I had an abortion, what do I even believe? I thought I had the scarlet12 A on my forehead for abortion. Finally, I decided13 it was time to take breaks from the church as a whole. And I didn't think I would ever step foot in one again.

MARTIN: Ultimately, she did. And now she belongs to what she considers a pretty progressive Methodist church.

UNIDENTIFIED SINGER: (Singing) Amazing grace, how sweet the sound...

MARTIN: She was a greeter at the service on Sunday.

V: Hi.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: Good morning.

V: Welcome. Good morning. Come on in.

MARTIN: V told me her minister had a moment of silence so everyone could reflect on the court's decision and its consequences. Her thoughts over the last couple of days have surprised her.

V: My emotions ran very high - mostly anger and just disbelief, even though I knew what was coming. Again, I was so desperate when I had the abortion. I did not expect my cousin to say, I'll be there on a plane flight. So I actually used Google to find out how to do my own abortion. And there were all of these tips on how. And I couldn't believe that I would ever consider it. But I also knew I needed somebody to drive me to the clinic and to pick me up. And I couldn't think of anyone that would ever do it because all of My friends were pro-life Christians14. So I feel for those people who live in states where it will become illegal. Very few people have the means to drive to other states or relocate for an abortion.

MARTIN: I asked V what she thinks is missing from the debates over abortion.

V: Stories. I'm telling my story, hoping to open some hearts. I don't think people realize that the person sitting next to them, their best friend, their cousin, sister, daughter, mother had an abortion. And I just hope that people, including the Supreme15 Court, get a more nuanced position on this, that you really don't know what's going to happen to you or what you're going to choose until it happens to you.

MARTIN: When you think about that version of yourself, that young woman who walked into the abortion clinic that day, what do you want to send her?

V: Oh, I just want to give her a hug. I just want her to know that it'll be a long journey, but she will find freedom and she will find love within herself and from God and from others and that she will find her place. And ultimately, she will be happy.

CONGREGATION: (Singing) As long as life...


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1 abortion ZzjzxH     
n.流产,堕胎
参考例句:
  • She had an abortion at the women's health clinic.她在妇女保健医院做了流产手术。
  • A number of considerations have led her to have a wilful abortion.多种考虑使她执意堕胎。
2 transcript JgpzUp     
n.抄本,誊本,副本,肄业证书
参考例句:
  • A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
  • They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。
3 pseudonym 2RExP     
n.假名,笔名
参考例句:
  • Eric Blair wrote under the pseudonym of George Orwell.埃里克·布莱尔用乔治·奧威尔这个笔名写作。
  • Both plays were published under the pseudonym of Philip Dayre.两个剧本都是以菲利普·戴尔的笔名出版的。
4 anonymity IMbyq     
n.the condition of being anonymous
参考例句:
  • Names of people in the book were changed to preserve anonymity. 为了姓名保密,书中的人用的都是化名。
  • Our company promises to preserve the anonymity of all its clients. 我们公司承诺不公开客户的姓名。
5 Christian KVByl     
adj.基督教徒的;n.基督教徒
参考例句:
  • They always addressed each other by their Christian name.他们总是以教名互相称呼。
  • His mother is a sincere Christian.他母亲是个虔诚的基督教徒。
6 ministries 80c65392682fb821af91521513be1259     
(政府的)部( ministry的名词复数 ); 神职; 牧师职位; 神职任期
参考例句:
  • Local authorities must refer everything to the central ministries. 地方管理机构应请示中央主管部门。
  • The number of Ministries has been pared down by a third. 部委的数量已经减少了1/3。
7 pregnancy lPwxP     
n.怀孕,怀孕期
参考例句:
  • Early pregnancy is often accompanied by nausea.怀孕早期常有恶心的现象。
  • Smoking during pregnancy increases the risk of miscarriage.怀孕期吸烟会增加流产的危险。
8 abortions 4b6623953f87087bb025549b49471574     
n.小产( abortion的名词复数 );小产胎儿;(计划)等中止或夭折;败育
参考例句:
  • The Venerable Master: By not having abortions, by not killing living beings. 上人:不堕胎、不杀生。 来自互联网
  • Conclusion Chromosome abnormality is one of the causes of spontaneous abortions. 结论:染色体异常是导致反复自然流产的原因之一。 来自互联网
9 numb 0RIzK     
adj.麻木的,失去感觉的;v.使麻木
参考例句:
  • His fingers were numb with cold.他的手冻得发麻。
  • Numb with cold,we urged the weary horses forward.我们冻得发僵,催着疲惫的马继续往前走。
10 guilt 9e6xr     
n.犯罪;内疚;过失,罪责
参考例句:
  • She tried to cover up her guilt by lying.她企图用谎言掩饰自己的罪行。
  • Don't lay a guilt trip on your child about schoolwork.别因为功课责备孩子而使他觉得很内疚。
11 dodge q83yo     
v.闪开,躲开,避开;n.妙计,诡计
参考例句:
  • A dodge behind a tree kept her from being run over.她向树后一闪,才没被车从身上辗过。
  • The dodge was coopered by the police.诡计被警察粉碎了。
12 scarlet zD8zv     
n.深红色,绯红色,红衣;adj.绯红色的
参考例句:
  • The scarlet leaves of the maples contrast well with the dark green of the pines.深红的枫叶和暗绿的松树形成了明显的对比。
  • The glowing clouds are growing slowly pale,scarlet,bright red,and then light red.天空的霞光渐渐地淡下去了,深红的颜色变成了绯红,绯红又变为浅红。
13 decided lvqzZd     
adj.决定了的,坚决的;明显的,明确的
参考例句:
  • This gave them a decided advantage over their opponents.这使他们比对手具有明显的优势。
  • There is a decided difference between British and Chinese way of greeting.英国人和中国人打招呼的方式有很明显的区别。
14 Christians 28e6e30f94480962cc721493f76ca6c6     
n.基督教徒( Christian的名词复数 )
参考例句:
  • Christians of all denominations attended the conference. 基督教所有教派的人都出席了这次会议。
  • His novel about Jesus caused a furore among Christians. 他关于耶稣的小说激起了基督教徒的公愤。
15 supreme PHqzc     
adj.极度的,最重要的;至高的,最高的
参考例句:
  • It was the supreme moment in his life.那是他一生中最重要的时刻。
  • He handed up the indictment to the supreme court.他把起诉书送交最高法院。
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