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The casket carrying Queen Elizabeth II is en route to her final resting place

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NPR's Rachel Martin talks to NPR's Frank Langfitt and author Claudia Joseph about the future of the monarchy³ after Queen Elizabeth's passing.

RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

The casket carrying Queen Elizabeth II is en route to her final resting place at Windsor Palace. We have been watching the funeral ceremonies all morning. I am here with NPR's Frank Langfitt and author Claudia Joseph. We have observed all of the highest ceremony, pomp and circumstance during the memorial. Through it all, this one individual, King Charles, has had to find his way managing his own grief, Claudia. And at the same time, he is now the king of England. He has had to assume his new role. What are your observations about how he has navigated⁴ the last few days and today in particular?

CLAUDIA JOSEPH: Well, I think it's very interesting. Anyone who's grieved will know that actually honoring the person who's died is a very important part of that for anyone, if it's your mother or the queen. And I think that he's navigated it extremely well. But I think he will find it a huge comfort that all the things they've done, particularly, I think, when they were doing the vigil, both at St Giles' Cathedral in Edinburgh and Westminster Hall down in London, I think those were very poignant⁵ moments. And I think that he will be greatly comforted that, although he is obviously grief-stricken and it's obviously a very difficult time for him, I think he'll be comforted by the fact that he's done this for both the queen and his mother.

MARTIN: Frank, he now, as king - sets his own agenda is not the right expression, but he will seek to maintain the same stability as his mother brought but potentially differentiate⁶ himself. I mean, who does he want to be as monarch²?

FRANK LANGFITT, BYLINE⁷: We don't know yet. I mean, it's going to be very interesting to see has - who he - how he frames himself in the coming months and then, of course, the coronation, which will be next year. Many people - and certainly this is a talking point from Buckingham Palace - focus on perhaps the environment. This is an area where he took a great interest when he was very young. I've seen quite impassioned, interesting speeches from the '70s on this before it was a terribly popular issue. And this would be a way also to appeal to younger people. One of concerns, though, is, in the past - and this was a while back - he used to write memos⁸ to government officials about certain issues that he cared about. And he's - he has to be very careful not to cross a line. And he is seen by some critics in the past to be a meddler⁹. Now he's - you know, that was many years ago. So we'll see how that all plays out. But people, I think, will be watching it very closely to see how he tries to define himself as different from his mother.

MARTIN: Although, Claudia, he just - he does not have the popularity that his mother had, in part because there were so many scandals that he was at the center of, and people knew more about him personally than they ever did his mother.

JOSEPH: Well, I think that you've also got to remember that the queen was on the throne for 70 years, and she had a long time to gain in popularity. And if you - coming up to her Silver Jubilee¹⁰ with her annus horribilis and all the rest of it, I think there was a certain perception that there wouldn't be the celebrations. And then everybody's astounded¹¹ because there were. And, again, with her Golden Jubilee and her Diamond Jubilee and her Platinum¹² - I think each time, people have been surprised by the popularity of the monarchy, and I think we'll find that with Prince Charles, as well. Everybody says - oh, no, sorry - King Charles III...

MARTIN: You have to adjust.

JOSEPH: Everybody says that he's not as popular as his mother, but he's been - he was Prince of Wales, and he's now king.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JOSEPH: And those roles are very different. And I think that you've seen the people wanting to talk to him, wanting to hold his hand, wanting to meet their future king, wanting to kiss that - kiss his hand, kiss his...

MARTIN: Right. To receive him and this moment.

JOSEPH: And I think he'll grow and grow in popularity.

MARTIN: Frank, I do want to ask in seconds remaining, is his - does his popularity extend to the other commonwealth¹³ nations?

LANGFITT: Well, we're going to see how that goes. Many of them, I think, were willing to have the queen as their head of state, but we see less support these days. Prince William and his wife, Kate Middleton, did a tour in the Caribbean where they had some troubles. I mean, they made some mistakes that were not their fault, and they apparently¹⁴ have learned from it. But I think the commonwealth, to watch - will some of these countries still stick with the monarchy with a new person in charge who they may not feel the same way about?

MARTIN: Author Claudia Joseph, NPR's Frank Langfitt. Thanks to you both. I appreciate it.

1 transcript   

n.抄本，誊本，副本，肄业证书

参考例句：

• A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
• They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。

2 monarch   

n.帝王，君主，最高统治者

参考例句：

• The monarch's role is purely ceremonial.君主纯粹是个礼仪职位。
• I think myself happier now than the greatest monarch upon earth.我觉得这个时候比世界上什么帝王都快乐。

3 monarchy   

n.君主，最高统治者；君主政体，君主国

参考例句：

• The monarchy in England plays an important role in British culture.英格兰的君主政体在英国文化中起重要作用。
• The power of the monarchy in Britain today is more symbolical than real.今日英国君主的权力多为象徵性的，无甚实际意义。

4 navigated   

v.给（船舶、飞机等）引航，导航( navigate的过去式和过去分词 )；（从海上、空中等）横越；横渡；飞跃

参考例句：

• He navigated the plane through the clouds. 他驾驶飞机穿越云层。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• The ship was navigated by the North Star. 那只船靠北极星来导航。 来自《简明英汉词典》

5 poignant   

adj.令人痛苦的，辛酸的，惨痛的

参考例句：

• His lyrics are as acerbic and poignant as they ever have been.他的歌词一如既往的犀利辛辣。
• It is especially poignant that he died on the day before his wedding.他在婚礼前一天去世了，这尤其令人悲恸。

6 differentiate   

vi.(between)区分；vt.区别；使不同

参考例句：

• You can differentiate between the houses by the shape of their chimneys.你可以凭借烟囱形状的不同来区分这两幢房子。
• He never learned to differentiate between good and evil.他从未学会分辨善恶。

7 byline   

n.署名；v.署名

参考例句：

• His byline was absent as well.他的署名也不见了。
• We wish to thank the author of this article which carries no byline.我们要感谢这篇文章的那位没有署名的作者。

8 memos   

n.备忘录( memo的名词复数 )；（美）内部通知

参考例句：

• Big shots get their dander up and memos start flying. 大人物们怒火中烧，备忘录四下乱飞。 来自辞典例句
• There was a pile of mail, memos and telephone messages on his desk. 他的办公桌上堆满着信件、备忘录和电话通知。 来自辞典例句

9 meddler   

n.爱管闲事的人，干涉者

参考例句：

• "I know you, you scoundrel! I have heard of you before. You are Holmes, the meddler." “我知道你，这个恶棍。我以前听过你。你是福尔摩斯，爱管闲事的人。” 来自互联网

10 jubilee   

n.周年纪念；欢乐

参考例句：

• They had a big jubilee to celebrate the victory.他们举行盛大的周年纪念活动以祝贺胜利。
• Every Jubilee,to take the opposite case,has served a function.反过来说，历次君主巡幸，都曾起到某种作用。

11 astounded   

v.使震惊(astound的过去式和过去分词)；愕然；愕；惊讶

参考例句：

• His arrogance astounded her. 他的傲慢使她震惊。
• How can you say that? I'm absolutely astounded. 你怎么能说出那种话？我感到大为震惊。

12 platinum   

n.白金

参考例句：

• I'll give her a platinum ring.我打算送给她一枚白金戒指。
• Platinum exceeds gold in value.白金的价值高于黄金。

13 commonwealth   

n.共和国，联邦，共同体

参考例句：

• He is the chairman of the commonwealth of artists.他是艺术家协会的主席。
• Most of the members of the Commonwealth are nonwhite.英联邦的许多成员国不是白人国家。

14 apparently   

adv.显然地；表面上，似乎

参考例句：

• An apparently blind alley leads suddenly into an open space.山穷水尽，豁然开朗。
• He was apparently much surprised at the news.他对那个消息显然感到十分惊异。