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MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST:

All right. Well, in addition to interviewing possibilities for the Supreme¹ Court today, President Trump² also says he spoke³ for about 30 minutes today with Mexico's president-elect, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: We talked about border security. We talked about trade. We talked about NAFTA. We talked about a separate deal, just Mexico with the United States. We had a lot of good conversation.

KELLY: Trump says he thinks the relationship will be a very good one. Lopez Obrador is a leftist populist. He has pledged to stamp out corruption⁴ and violence, both of which are rampant⁵ in Mexico. His victory yesterday was overwhelming. He got more than half the votes cast in the election. Here's NPR's Carrie Kahn.

CARRIE KAHN, BYLINE⁶: Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador won big. Not only did his new party, which is only four years old, take the presidency⁷, it grabbed five governor's races and will be the biggest voting bloc⁸ in Congress. Since Mexico began its democratic opening in the late 1990s, no Mexican president has had such an overwhelming electoral mandate⁹. Carlos Bravo Regidor, a professor at CIDE, a public research center in Mexico City, says the voters definitely expressed their anger with the political establishment, but they did not abandon democracy.

CARLOS BRAVO REGIDOR: Let's elect the principal opposition¹⁰ leader. And, you know, let's give him enough power to gather enough political capital to really push through, you know, a new agenda.

KAHN: Voter Mario Ruiz Bacera says that's why he went for every candidate running under Lopez Obrador's MORENA party too.

MARIO RUIZ BACERA: (Speaking Spanish).

KAHN: "You have to give them the whole car, or they'll just put the brakes on his agenda," says Ruiz. Just how far the president-elect will change Mexico's current establishment is unclear. His critics have long warned he's a leftist firebrand akin¹¹ to Venezuela's Hugo Chavez who will dangerously pull Latin America's second-largest economy toward socialism. Last night, in hopes of calming international investors¹² and markets, Lopez Obrador said he wasn't interested in expropriations or state control of the country's banks.

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ANDRES MANUEL LOPEZ OBRADOR: (Speaking Spanish).

KAHN: "The new government will maintain fiscal¹³ and monetary¹⁴ discipline," he told supporters packed into a downtown hotel ballroom¹⁵. Minutes later, the president-elect also said he will be doubling pensions for the elderly, giving education scholarships to the young and aiding the disabled.

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LOPEZ OBRADOR: (Speaking Spanish).

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KAHN: "We will provide good to all. But," says Lopez Obrador, "the poor come first." It's clear the incoming president has a lot of different sectors¹⁶ of society to satisfy. To get elected this time, his third run for the presidency, Lopez Obrador united a disparate group of political interests, everything from veteran leftists to entrenched¹⁷ labor¹⁸ unionists to conservative evangelicals. He will also have to balance Mexico's precarious¹⁹ relations with the U.S. and President Trump - a tough task, says Carlos Bravo Regidor of the CIDE think tank, given that the president-elect at heart is an economic nationalist.

REGIDOR: Although that doesn't mean that he's against NAFTA or that he is anti-globalization or anti-American. It just means that he's aware of the fact that, you know, NAFTA has not been all roses and rainbows for Mexico.

KAHN: Lopez Obrador insists he will be a tough negotiator with Trump and will get the respect from the U.S. president his predecessor²⁰ couldn't. Eric Olson of the Wilson Institute in Washington, D.C., says Lopez Obrador is in a tricky²¹ spot when it comes to balancing relations with the U.S. and appeasing²² critics at home.

ERIC OLSON: He has to walk the fine line between those who want more assertive²³ approach to Donald Trump and the pragmatic need to continue the cooperation.

KAHN: Olson says, if the incoming president is to complete his primary campaign pledge to crack down on corruption, he'll need U.S. intelligence and cooperation to make that a reality. Carrie Kahn, NPR News, Mexico City.

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