Julia: So Nathan, I got a ride here with you today and I noticed in the car that you were a little bit angry.

Nathan: You know that was me toned down.

 

Julia: Oh my goodness.

 

Nathan: I can seriously get mega road rage.

 

Julia: Where's it coming from? Where's it coming from?

 

Nathan: I think it's because I think that everybody should be like aware and considerate of everything around them and I try to be so I try to never go over the speed limit. If I can see like there's a row of traffic coming on and there's a car stopping the traffic because they want to turn, I always try to let them turn and I think that some people are selfish and it drives me bonkers.

 

Julia: So you have road compassion and road rage at the same time?

 

Nathan: Yeah, maybe. But it's interesting because I'm going through a process at the moment of trying to wash away this road rage and actually it comes from your husband. He's kind of like my yogic master and he's telling me all these things to help me. He's, when somebody does something crazy and your husband is in the car with me going to work every day...

 

Julia: Does he give you the voice in their head?

 

Nathan: And he says you know it's just a mistake. They didn't normally want to do that kind of thing but just this one time they made a mistake and they probably won't do it again and it doesn't matter. Or if I say yeah but lots of people do that and he says but they're not going to change, you can't drive their car, you can only...

 

Julia: He's infuriating with his wisdom, isn't he?

 

Nathan: Well but it's useful because it's me changing, like it's helping reduce my stress but it's made me think about some other things as well.

 

Julia: So do you think there's a job out there then for people who become passengers to road ragers and give them this calming voice? They sit there in the passenger seat and as you're driving along and your road rage manifests, this person has then to calm you down and talk you through it. Do you think there's a job there, do you could make money from that?

 

Nathan: I reckon five years ago when the economy was pretty good that would have been a possibility but I think that now that maybe people don't have that money to splash around.

 

Julia: We're all just stuck with our road rage then?

 

Nathan: Stuck with my road rage.