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我是主持人加内特·米歇尔，今天我们谈论的内容是电脑的诞生。几乎是马上数字一出现在屏幕上正确的位置。他们可以看到它向他们发出明亮的光。这是数字一，它是个质数......

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GARRET MICHEL: Welcome along to Digital Planet, our technology show right here on WORLD SERVICE. Hello, I'm Garret Michel and today, the birth of computers, as we know them.

MAN1: Almost instantly the number one appeared at the right place on the screen. They could see that it shone out brightly to them. It's a one, it's a prime number. It's given the right answer. That was the excitement of the day.

GARRET MICHEL: So, what was the first ever task programmed into a computer?

All right then, well, I don't see the point of social networking websites and after all, when did you ever get an email that actually mattered, no that's not me saying that. But believe it or not, the boss of one of the world's most influential technology companies, although I paraphrased that a little bit, but that's pretty much the essence of what Scott McNealy told me recently. He is chairman of SUN Microsystems no less, for many of us, SUN isn't really that visible. You don't see it's logo on your PC or any of your gadgets at home, but at work there's a pretty reasonable chance that your companies IT systems might be based on SUN technology and online, some of the applications that you use them, include the firms JAVA platform. Well, Scott McNealy was in London late last week and offered this program, the only broadcasted interview on his trip. So when we meet I was curious to find out from Scott, why the boss of such a major technology company is actually a bit of a self-confessed Luddite?

SCOTT MCNEALY: Everybody's on in the social networking and avatars, and virtual reality this that and the other thing. I'd just soon be out playing golf, hanging out with my boys or having a beer at a pub. I don't want to be on the network, I don't want my stuff to be on the network. I don't want my thermostats, I don't wasn't my automobile gas gage, and fuel gage, all the rest connected to the fuel pumps. And telling my car where to go and when I need gas. I don't want to carry my music around with me, I don't want when I want to listen to music, I don't want my phone to go pull it down from the sky somewhere. So if I lose my phone I don't lose all my music. I don't want to program and develop these play lists on a PC and then transfer it over to an MP3 player and then carry that. I mean it's all very very complicated, and I certainly don't necessarily want to put all my personal life out there, my personal diary out there on Facebook or MySpace. I'm, Maybe I'm a crusty old guy but I don't want my stuff connected to the network, and let it do all the work so I can go have fun.

GARRET MICHEL: Cause I think the right thing that you, you have four kids, actually four boys. I'm not sure what kind of age they are, but are they getting into social networking? Are they saying that they are gonna, signing up to Facebook and MySpace and going Dad come and join in, it could be really good fun?

SCOTT MCNEALY: I don't know, I might be a little bit of a Luddite, they are all very good students. And in facts my oldest was tops in his class in the entire school. And his came and says dad I want a, he's 12, and he says I want an email address and I want a personal computer, and I said why and he says cause everybody else in my class has it. And I go hmmmm, and I said who is tops in their class in school and he goes me, and I said hmmm, he looked at me, figured out what I had just done and he stumped out of the room. So you know, I'm not sure you know, that he's missing out much. In fact I asked him, because he has to get his emails through my wife's email account and I said have you ever gotten an email that mattered? And, the kid's smart, he looks at me and he goes, no dad, honestly they're all garbage. You know somehow I don't think he's missing out by not being on the web at this stage in life.

GARRET MICHEL: One of the other big things you say, Scott, is energy efficiency and you look at all these technologies, and if I may call this, the cloud technologies and you see them as ways of making devices more energy efficient that could seem quite important to you.

SCOTT MCNEALY: Well, anytime you crank up the heat then you have to cool it off so you gotta to power these big machines, but there's just as much if not more waste on a clients' side with. And the other problem is, you're turning over your laptops every two-three years, your desktops every two-three years and then loading it up with software and then again running it at a very low utilization rate. So it's much more effective to let the cloud do your computing, the network is the computer as we say.

GARRET MICHEL: Finally then, what are the, what's in the future for SUN Microsystems?

SCITT MCNEALY: Well our big strategy is to share, so we're open sourcing our entire IP, software IP environment. We're contributing that all to the open source community. We think free and open source is a very powerful marketing massage, a very powerful distribution mechanism, a very powerful sharing mechanism. We have about 1.25 million open office downloads a week, this is stunning in terms of the volume to reach the scale and with the help we get from everybody, it lowers our cost of engineering. It's a very powerful model and we can monetize free, because free is the new black as we like to say. We're able to monetize the best selling servers, storage and support services to the very large community of SUN software users.

GARRET MICHEL: That was Scott McNealy and he was speaking exclusively there to Digital Planet.

网络科技

加内特·米歇尔：大家好，欢迎收看BBC的科技节目--《数字平台》。我是主持人加内特·米歇尔，今天我们谈论的内容是电脑的诞生。

男士一 ：几乎是马上数字一出现在屏幕上正确的位置。他们可以看到它向他们发出明亮的光。这是数字一，它是个质数。它给了正确的答案。那是令人兴奋的一天。

加内特·米歇尔：那么第一次被编程到电脑的任务是什么？

毕竟我不明白社交网站的重要性，你什么时候收到过一封其实是很重要的电子邮件，这不是我说的。信不信由你，这是世界上最有影响力的科技公司之一的老板说的，尽管我解释了一点点，但是这些都是斯科特·麦克尼利近来告诉我的一些精华。他是SUN Microsystems的执行首席官，对于我们大多数人来说，SUN Microsystems并不是可见的。你不会在你的个人电脑或者家里的任何小配件上看到它的标识语，但是在工作中你有相当多的合理机会了解到你公司的IT系统可能基于他们的技术，在网上你可能会使用到他们的一些应用软件，包括公司的Java技术平台。斯科特·麦克尼利上周在伦敦提供了这个节目，这是他行程中惟一的采访。当我们见面的时候，我很好奇地想从斯科特·麦克尼利那里得知，为什么这样一个大的科技公司的老板其实有点像一个公开承认的勒德分子呢？

斯科特·麦克尼利：每个人都在社交网络上的登陆，这体现了虚拟现实等等这类的事物。另外，一会儿我就会出去打高尔夫球，和我的男孩子们闲逛，或者到酒吧喝酒。我不想在网络上，我不想让我的东西在网络上。我不想我的温度调节器，汽油显示器，燃油显示器以及所有和燃油泵有关的装置和网络有关系。让它控制我的车要去哪儿和提醒我什么时候要加油。我不希望身边喜欢的音乐和它有关系，当我想听音乐的时候，我不希望我手机里的音乐是从网络下载来的。这样即使我的手机丢了，我想要的音乐也不会都不见的。我不愿意在电脑上编辑建立音乐列表，然后传送到我的mp3里，再随身携带着它。那样太麻烦了，我当然不愿意把我的所有私人生活，或者我的私人日记一览无余的放在Facebook或MySpace里。也许我是一个固执的守旧的人，但是我不愿意和网络有任何关联，让它来做我的活，然后我去找其它的娱乐。

加内特·米歇尔：我认为你有四个孩子吧，确切地说是四个男孩。我不是很清楚他们的年纪，那么他们上网吗？他们说过要注册Facebook或MySpace吗，他们会说爸爸加入吧，很有意思吗？

斯科特·麦克尼利：不知道，也许我有点勒德派，但是他们都是好学生。实际上，我的大儿子在班里乃至整个学校他的成绩一直是名列前茅。他12岁那年走过来跟我说他想要一个邮箱和一台电脑，我问他原因，他说因为班里的其他孩子都有。我问他那么在学校的班里谁每次都是第一，他回答了我，然后明白了我的意思就慢慢地走出去了。所以你知道，我不太确定他失去了很多。事实上，因为他通过我妻子的邮箱收邮件，我就问他是否收到过重要的邮件？他很机灵，看着我说没有，爸爸，实际上，我收到的都是垃圾邮件。不知为什么，我认为他生活中的这个阶段不会因为没上网就失去什么的。

加内特·米歇尔：斯科特，你说的另一件重要的事情是能量效率。你看到的所有这些科技是否我可以称为云科技，你认为这些技术能使驱动程序更有效，这对你来说相当重要。

斯科特·麦克尼利：每次你开动了热能源，然后不得不把它冷却这样才能启动这些大型机器，如果不在客户机程序上浪费它就足够了。另一个问题是，你每隔两三年更新你的手提电脑和台式电脑，然后重装系统，再以一个很低的利用率运行。因此让云科技来运作你的电脑效率会更高。也就是我们常说的网络就是计算机。

加内特·米歇尔：那么最后一个问题，你认为SUN Microsystems的未来是怎样的？

斯科特·麦克尼利：我们的重要战略是共享，所以我们要开放源代码，开放整个IP 、软件IP环境。我们会将一切贡献给开放源码区域。我们认为自由开放源代码是一个非常强有力的市场营销手段，一个非常强有力的销售机制、共享机制。每周我们大约有125万次的下载量，按照这个规模的容量，这是惊人的。由于得到了大家的帮助，它降低了我们的工程成本。它是强有力的模型，我们可以自由铸造，因为就像我们所说的自由是创新。我们能够为我们大量的SUN软件用户铸造出最畅销的服务器，存储和维护服务。

加内特·米歇尔：这是斯科特·麦克尼利在《数字平台》节目的专访。