美国国家公共电台 NPR 纽约检方对特朗普集团的调查扩至刑事领域（在线收听）

Former President Donald Trump is now being investigated by two prosecutors in New York.

目前，前总统唐纳德·特朗普在纽约接受两名检察官的调查。

The New York state attorney general said last night that she had expanded what was a civil case into a criminal investigation.

纽约州总检察长昨晚表示，她已将民事案件扩大为刑事调查。

That is in addition to an already-existing, wide-ranging criminal fraud investigation by the Manhattan district attorney.

除此之外，曼哈顿地区检察官也已展开范围广泛的刑事欺诈调查。

Andrea Bernstein from member station WNYC joins us to talk about all this. Andrea, thanks for being here.

WNYC成员站的安德里亚·伯恩斯坦将和我们连线，详细讨论这一切。安德里亚，谢谢你。

Good morning.

早上好。

So remind us what New York's attorney general had been investigating.

请说明一下纽约州总检察长在调查什么。

So New York Attorney General Letitia James has been looking into a pattern of whether Trump would criminally and deliberately undervalue properties when, say, he had to pay taxes.

纽约州总检察长莱蒂娅·詹姆斯一直在调查特朗普是否在其必须纳税时，以犯罪方式蓄意低估房产价值。

And then she's trying to find out if Trump deliberately and criminally overvalued those same properties when he wanted a tax write-off.

之后，她要试图找出特朗普在想要减免税收时是否以犯罪方式故意高估了这些房产的价值。

As part of the investigation, the AG went to court last fall to force Eric Trump to testify in a deposition.

作为调查的一部分，总检察长去年秋天走上法庭，迫使埃里克·特朗普在书面证词中作证。

And at the time, she said in court papers, it wasn't a criminal case.

当时，她在法庭文件中表示，这不是刑事案件。

But now her office has decided otherwise, and it said last night it is, quote, "now actively investigating The Trump Organization in a criminal capacity."

但现在她的办公室做出了相反的决定，并在昨晚表示，“,积极调查特朗普集团的刑事犯罪问题”。

So remind us of the other criminal investigation, this one coming out of the office of the Manhattan DA.

请介绍一下曼哈顿检察官办公室进行的另一项刑事调查。

So that's the one of a possible protracted criminal fraud involving banks, insurance and taxes.

这是可能涉及银行、保险和税收的旷日持久的犯罪欺诈案。

And this is the case where DA Cyrus Vance Jr. went to the U.S. Supreme Court twice to get Trump's tax returns.

这起案件使地区检察官小塞勒斯·万斯两次到美国最高法院领取特朗普的报税单。

He finally got them in February, and since then, prosecutors have been digging into Trump's business dealings and those of his associates,

他终于在2月份拿到了这些文件，自那以后，检察官一直在深入调查特朗普及其助手的商业往来，

particularly his chief operating officer, Allen Weisselberg, and Weisselberg's family.

特别是其首席运营官艾伦·魏斯伯格及魏斯伯格的家人。

Now, Trump, Weisselberg and The Trump Organization have denied any wrongdoing, and Trump has said the prosecutions are politically motivated.

现在，特朗普、魏斯伯格和特朗普集团均否认存在任何不当行为，特朗普还表示起诉是出于政治动机。

Are there any intersections here? I mean, are the two prosecutors working together?

两起案件有交叉吗？两名检察官有合作吗？

Yes. So this is a bit unusual because in New York, the AG and the DA have historically been rivals, but in this case, they are working together.

有。这有点不寻常，因为在纽约，总检察长和地区检察官历来是竞争对手，但在这起案件中，他们进行了合作。

Two assistant attorneys general have now joined the DA's team of prosecutors.

两名助理检察长已加入地区检察官的团队。

This is a complicated case involving millions of pages of tax returns and other documents and a sprawling international business,

这是一起复杂的案件，涉及数百万页的纳税申报表和其他文件，以及庞大的国际业务，

and what we're seeing is that both of them are making a very determined and coordinated effort to sift through evidence of possible crimes.

我们看到的是，他们都做出了非常坚定和协调的努力，以筛选可能的犯罪证据。

So where does this go? Where do both of them go?

那会走向何方？两起案件会怎样发展？

So the first major public step would be an indictment, and the Manhattan DA has both a case clock —

第一个主要的公开步骤是起诉，曼哈顿地方检察官有个案件时钟，

I mean, he has been saying from the beginning of his attempt to get the records that statutes of limitation are running.

他从一开始就表示，他要努力获得记录，而诉讼时效已开始计时。

He also has a personal clock. Cyrus Vance's term ends on December 31. He's not running for reelection.

他还有个私人时钟。塞勒斯·万斯的任期将于12月31日结束。他不会竞选连任。

So if one or both of these prosecutors believe there is sufficient evidence a crime was committed,

因此，如果这些检察官中的一人或两人认为有足够的犯罪证据，

they could be charging the former president and his associates or his company with crimes before the end of this year.

那他们可能会在今年年底前指控前总统及其助手或其公司存在犯罪行为。

Andrea Bernstein from member station WNYC. Andrea, thanks as always for your reporting.

以上是WNYC成员站的安德里亚·伯恩斯坦带来的报道。安德里亚，谢谢你的报道。

Thank you. Great talking to you.

谢谢你。很高兴和你连线。