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美国国家公共电台 NPR--Investigators piece together the police response to the Uvalde school shooting

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Investigators1 piece together the police response to the Uvalde school shooting

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NPR's A Martinez talks to Alex del Carmen, associate dean at the school of criminology at Tarleton State University in Texas, about the probes into the shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde.

A MART?NEZ, HOST:

To gain a better understanding of how investigators are looking into all this, we turn to Alex del Carmen in Fort Worth, Texas. He's a criminologist and police trainer. He's also associate dean at the School of Criminology at Tarleton State University. I asked him how investigators start to piece together what actually happened.

ALEX DEL CARMEN: Basically, what they're going to do is they're going to start reviewing all of the audio-related records, right? So whether it's a cell phone call, a dispatch call or a radio transmission among officers, they're going to be able to find out what it is that somebody said to the other person related to the actual timeline of the incident. In addition to that, they're going to be looking at the social media components4 as well that could be used as a piece of evidence. And then the final component3 of this is likely going to be interviews of the police officers that were actually called to the scene.

MART?NEZ: Now, some of the accounts from the school said first responders failed to rush into the classrooms because they believed it was a barricaded5 subject versus6 an active shooter. So can you explain the difference between a barricaded subject and an active shooter and how that determination is used by police when deciding what to do?

DEL CARMEN: So essentially7 the rules of engagement, universally - when somebody is barricaded, police officers are asked to evacuate8 the area but at the same time call a tactical unit. Tactical units like a SWAT team - they're all essentially prepared and trained in order to handle these situations. However, when an active shooter is on site and we know that this individual is highly capable and motivated to take out lives and that every second counts to save a life, law enforcement is asked to charge to the scene, neutralize9 the suspect and simply take over the scene. Right? So in this particular situation, information is absolutely crucial.

MART?NEZ: And I'm guessing, I mean, if it's an active shooter, you might be able to hear gunfire, but if it's a barricaded subject, how do you know that it's just only a barricaded subject?

DEL CARMEN: Now, typically, what would have happened in a case, say, of a bank - you know, that somebody robs a bank - the 911 calls will come in and say, you know, we're being held hostage here. There would have been verbal threats made by the hostage-taker. So there would have been a clear confirmation10 visually, auditorially (ph) and, at the same time, through the evidence coming out of the crime scene that, in fact, this would have been a hostage situation. So law enforcement is trained to identify, determine, analyze11 and respond based on what they hear and see.

MART?NEZ: Now, what kinds of factors will investigators be looking at when they examine how law enforcement responded to the emergency?

DEL CARMEN: They're going to be looking at whether or not the response was adequate as far as the timing12 is concerned, whether or not they actually had adequate equipment in order to respond to the scene. And then finally, they're going to look at whether or not the leadership in place knew what they were doing, whether or not they actually took charge of the event, they gave proper instructions and law enforcement responded and in fact saved lives - right? - versus actually having additional bodies that would have been removed from the crime scene.

MART?NEZ: Now, the Department of Justice says it will also review the police response to the Uvalde shooting. What could we learn from a federal investigation13 that maybe we would not learn from state investigators?

DEL CARMEN: So what's likely going to happen is the Justice Department - they're going to be showing up to the scene, looking at all the records that the local law enforcement folks will, but at the same time, they're going to have a different aim. Their investigation is going to focus on whether or not, you know, lives could have been saved. And the second big question is, what can we do in the future to prevent these incidents? What are the, quote-unquote, "best practices" that we can actually put into play, given the very, very unique scenario14 in Uvalde, Texas?

MART?NEZ: And is it fair to say that the more local an investigation gets, the more bias15 somehow can creep in, and if it's at a federal level, there's less of that?

DEL CARMEN: You know, the theory is that at the federal level, you're going to have folks that have no affiliation16, family members or relatives to the area, and therefore, they're going to be able to have a more objective perspective. But I would argue that, perhaps more importantly, the feds oftentimes have resources and have tools that the local authorities - even the state authorities - don't have. And then secondly17, when the report comes out, being that it is a federal report, it is likely going to have a much wider audience than something that would have been created here in Texas.

MART?NEZ: You know, wondering what have you been thinking about as we find out what we're being told about the investigation and all the details that seem to be changing in the last few days?

DEL CARMEN: I'm always careful, having been a criminologist of 25 years, to criticize law enforcement from the standpoint of, you know, we weren't there, and Monday morning quarterbacking is very easy to do. But I will say that the flow of information - although it typically is somehow fluid and limited in the first few minutes or hours, I think this was an absolute disaster as the information was coming out of the school and being relayed on to the reporters and to the public. They have to make sure the facts come out and that the information is relayed at once. Secondly, and perhaps the bigger part for me is, you know, how can this happen in the year 2022 where we are actually looking at the entire country and scratching our heads and wondering whether or not security protocols18 should be implemented19 at schools? I mean, there is absolutely no question that there - it should not be an issue of if, as opposed to when these protocols should be in place so that these incidents can be prevented in the future.

MART?NEZ: Alex del Carmen is associate dean at the School of Criminology at Tarleton State University. Thank you very much.

DEL CARMEN: Thank you.

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n.调查者,审查者( investigator的名词复数 )
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  • This memo could be the smoking gun that investigators have been looking for. 这份备忘录可能是调查人员一直在寻找的证据。
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  • A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
  • They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。
3 component epSzv     
n.组成部分,成分,元件;adj.组成的,合成的
参考例句:
  • Each component is carefully checked before assembly.每个零件在装配前都经过仔细检查。
  • Blade and handle are the component parts of a knife.刀身和刀柄是一把刀的组成部分。
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(机器、设备等的)构成要素,零件,成分; 成分( component的名词复数 ); [物理化学]组分; [数学]分量; (混合物的)组成部分
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设路障于,以障碍物阻塞( barricade的过去式和过去分词 ); 设路障[防御工事]保卫或固守
参考例句:
  • The police barricaded the entrance. 警方在入口处设置了路障。
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prep.以…为对手,对;与…相比之下
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7 essentially nntxw     
adv.本质上,实质上,基本上
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  • Really great men are essentially modest.真正的伟人大都很谦虚。
  • She is an essentially selfish person.她本质上是个自私自利的人。
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v.遣送;搬空;抽出;排泄;大(小)便
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  • We must evacuate those soldiers at once!我们必须立即撤出这些士兵!
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v.使失效、抵消,使中和
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  • Acids neutralize alkalis and vice versa.酸能使碱中和碱,亦能使酸中和。
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n.证实,确认,批准
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  • We are waiting for confirmation of the news.我们正在等待证实那个消息。
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vt.分析,解析 (=analyse)
参考例句:
  • We should analyze the cause and effect of this event.我们应该分析这场事变的因果。
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n.时间安排,时间选择
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  • The timing of the meeting is not convenient.会议的时间安排不合适。
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13 investigation MRKzq     
n.调查,调查研究
参考例句:
  • In an investigation,a new fact became known, which told against him.在调查中新发现了一件对他不利的事实。
  • He drew the conclusion by building on his own investigation.他根据自己的调查研究作出结论。
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n.剧本,脚本;概要
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  • But the birth scenario is not completely accurate.然而分娩脚本并非完全准确的。
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n.偏见,偏心,偏袒;vt.使有偏见
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n.联系,联合
参考例句:
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  • The kidnappers had no affiliation with any militant group.这些绑架者与任何军事组织都没有紧密联系。
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adv.第二,其次
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  • Hardware components and software design of network transport protocols are separately introduced. 介绍系统硬件组成及网络传输协议的软件设计。 来自互联网
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v.实现( implement的过去式和过去分词 );执行;贯彻;使生效
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