美国国家公共电台 NPR--Far-right figures in prison get their message out by podcasting behind bars

Far-right figures in prison get their message out by podcasting behind bars

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Steve Bannon's conviction for defying a subpoena² from the Jan. 6 House panel could result in fines or jail time. That's raised a question of whether the ex-Trump³ adviser⁴ would podcast from prison.

LEILA FADEL, HOST:

Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon's criminal conviction for refusing to answer a congressional subpoena from the January 6 committee could lead to fines or jail time, which prompts a question - if jailed, would he, could he continue his podcast? As it turns out, some on the hard right have been doing just that. NPR's Odette Yousef reports.

ODETTE YOUSEF, BYLINE⁵: Even after Trump dismissed him from the White House in 2017, Bannon continues to be known as the former president's chief propagandist.

(SOUNDBITE OF PODCAST, "BANNON'S WAR ROOM")

UNIDENTIFIED ANNOUNCER: War room. Battleground. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

YOUSEF: His primary platform has been his podcast. During his trial, it was among the top 10 of Apple News podcasts. The possibility that he could continue if jailed concerns Rachel Carroll Rivas because already several far-right figures are podcasting from behind bars. Carroll Rivas is with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

RACHEL CARROLL RIVAS: From those of us who have concerns about the hard-right anti-democracy march in the U.S., it would be very concerning to have Steve Bannon continue to be able to use his microphone to incite⁶, inspire and encourage that anti-democracy movement.

YOUSEF: The far-right podcasting ecosystem⁷ is extensive, and the SPLC has found that it's played a big role in mainstreaming extremist ideas.

CARROLL RIVAS: And it's kind of a clear line for many people to, really, just be exposed and to network in to that hard-right movement.

YOUSEF: Like many other platforms made possible by the internet, Carroll Rivas says podcasts have shortened the time it takes for people to adopt fringe viewpoints and find like-minded communities.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: Hello. This is a prepaid collect call from...

YOUSEF: For some January 6ers (ph), prison can also be good PR.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: ...An incarcerated⁸ individual at Alexandria Detention⁹ Center. This call is not private. It will be recorded and may be monitored.

YOUSEF: Some have created their own podcasts that spin their incarceration¹⁰ as examples of a tyrannical or deep-state government at work. Others call in collect as guests on far-right podcasts. They air the same conspiracy¹¹ theories and lies that helped to propel the attack on the Capitol. Amy Spitalnick heads Integrity First for America.

AMY SPITALNICK: Of course, the goal of this, in many ways, is to continue driving attention, continue driving funds, continuing to promote extremism and hate.

YOUSEF: Spitalnick's group sued organizers of the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. That was a deadly gathering¹² of neo-Nazis and white nationalists. One defendant¹³, Chris Cantwell, was a podcaster. Throughout the pretrial and trial period, Cantwell was in prison and broadcasting. He only stopped when he was moved to a special unit where communications were restricted. The Bureau of Prisons wouldn't say why he was transferred. Spitalnick thinks it was because he harassed¹⁴ and threatened people online. But Cantwell has said the government was trying to silence political talk it didn't like. This is where things get tricky¹⁵.

PAUL WRIGHT: Prisoners retain a First Amendment¹⁶ right to speak and to be heard.

YOUSEF: Paul Wright had a weekly radio show from prison in the '90s.

WRIGHT: The reality is prisoners have been doing this for a long time, for decades.

YOUSEF: Whether by radio or podcast, they've broadcasted from across the political spectrum¹⁷. Now Wright heads a nonprofit to protect prisoners' rights, and he doesn't buy the idea that podcasts from extremists in prison should be of much concern. The bigger concern to him would be restricting that right.

WRIGHT: When you're setting up the government as the arbiter¹⁸ of what is or isn't acceptable speech, I'm pretty skeptical¹⁹.

YOUSEF: Instead, Wright and others say the public ultimately should decide whether these hard-right prisoners are podcasting speech that's worth listening to.

Odette Yousef, NPR News.

1 transcript   

n.抄本，誊本，副本，肄业证书

参考例句：

• A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
• They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。

2 subpoena   

n.（法律）传票；v.传讯

参考例句：

• He was brought up to court with a subpoena.他接到传讯，来到法庭上。
• Select committees have the power to subpoena witnesses.特别委员会有权传唤证人。

3 trump   

n.王牌，法宝；v.打出王牌，吹喇叭

参考例句：

• He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
• The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手，作为他的王牌。

4 adviser   

n.劝告者，顾问

参考例句：

• They employed me as an adviser.他们聘请我当顾问。
• Our department has engaged a foreign teacher as phonetic adviser.我们系已经聘请了一位外籍老师作为语音顾问。

5 byline   

n.署名；v.署名

参考例句：

• His byline was absent as well.他的署名也不见了。
• We wish to thank the author of this article which carries no byline.我们要感谢这篇文章的那位没有署名的作者。

6 incite   

v.引起，激动，煽动

参考例句：

• I wanted to point out he was a very good speaker, and could incite a crowd.我想说明他曾是一个非常出色的演讲家，非常会调动群众的情绪。
• Just a few words will incite him into action.他只需几句话一将，就会干。

7 ecosystem   

n.生态系统

参考例句：

• This destroyed the ecosystem of the island.这样破坏了岛上的生态系统。
• We all have an interest in maintaining the integrity of the ecosystem.维持生态系统的完整是我们共同的利益。

8 incarcerated   

钳闭的

参考例句：

• They were incarcerated for the duration of the war. 战争期间，他们被关在狱中。 来自辞典例句
• I don't want to worry them by being incarcerated. 我不想让他们知道我被拘禁的事情。 来自电影对白

9 detention   

n.滞留，停留；拘留，扣留；(教育)留下

参考例句：

• He was kept in detention by the police.他被警察扣留了。
• He was in detention in connection with the bribery affair.他因与贿赂事件有牵连而被拘留了。

10 incarceration   

n.监禁，禁闭；钳闭

参考例句：

• He hadn't changed much in his nearly three years of incarceration. 在将近三年的监狱生活中，他变化不大。 来自辞典例句
• Please, please set it free before it bursts from its long incarceration! 请你，请你将这颗心释放出来吧！否则它会因长期的禁闭而爆裂。 来自辞典例句

11 conspiracy   

n.阴谋，密谋，共谋

参考例句：

• The men were found guilty of conspiracy to murder.这些人被裁决犯有阴谋杀人罪。
• He claimed that it was all a conspiracy against him.他声称这一切都是一场针对他的阴谋。

12 gathering   

n.集会，聚会，聚集

参考例句：

• He called on Mr. White to speak at the gathering.他请怀特先生在集会上讲话。
• He is on the wing gathering material for his novels.他正忙于为他的小说收集资料。

13 defendant   

n.被告；adj.处于被告地位的

参考例句：

• The judge rejected a bribe from the defendant's family.法官拒收被告家属的贿赂。
• The defendant was borne down by the weight of evidence.有力的证据使被告认输了。

14 harassed   

adj. 疲倦的，厌烦的 动词harass的过去式和过去分词

参考例句：

• He has complained of being harassed by the police. 他投诉受到警方侵扰。
• harassed mothers with their children 带着孩子的疲惫不堪的母亲们

15 tricky   

adj.狡猾的，奸诈的；(工作等)棘手的，微妙的

参考例句：

• I'm in a rather tricky position.Can you help me out?我的处境很棘手，你能帮我吗？
• He avoided this tricky question and talked in generalities.他回避了这个非常微妙的问题，只做了个笼统的表述。

16 amendment   

n.改正，修正，改善，修正案

参考例句：

• The amendment was rejected by 207 voters to 143.这项修正案以207票对143票被否决。
• The Opposition has tabled an amendment to the bill.反对党已经就该议案提交了一项修正条款。

17 spectrum   

n.谱，光谱，频谱；范围，幅度，系列

参考例句：

• This is a kind of atomic spectrum.这是一种原子光谱。
• We have known much of the constitution of the solar spectrum.关于太阳光谱的构成，我们已了解不少。

18 arbiter   

n.仲裁人，公断人

参考例句：

• Andrew was the arbiter of the disagreement.安德鲁是那场纠纷的仲裁人。
• Experiment is the final arbiter in science.实验是科学的最后仲裁者。

19 skeptical   

adj.怀疑的，多疑的

参考例句：

• Others here are more skeptical about the chances for justice being done.这里的其他人更为怀疑正义能否得到伸张。
• Her look was skeptical and resigned.她的表情是将信将疑而又无可奈何。