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'Morning Edition' tests a plant-based version of Chili¹

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Jack³ Bishop⁴ of the PBS show America's Test Kitchen teaches NPR's A Martinez how to make vegetarian⁵ chili — that even meat lovers can appreciate. (Story aired on Morning Edition on Dec. 1, 2022.)

(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)

A MART?NEZ, HOST:

Nothing warms the bones and the soul quite like a hearty⁶ bowl of chili. Today, we're fixing to bring you a chili recipe that'll tantalize⁷ your taste buds and, if you're a hardcore Texas chili-maker, get you to raise one of those eyebrows⁸. Our recipe comes from Jack Bishop of the PBS television show "America's Test Kitchen."

JACK BISHOP: This is a plant-based chili for people who love meaty chili but are trying to eat less meat. I promise you, when you're done with this, if you were to serve this to someone, they would think it was beef.

MART?NEZ: Jack's recipe has enough taste and texture⁹ to satisfy the most carnivorous carnivore. Now, the biggest surprise was that I was able to make it at home without burning down my kitchen.

(SOUNDBITE OF FOOD SIZZLING)

BISHOP: You're going to stir it occasionally. So if you've got a spatula¹⁰ or a wooden spoon.

MART?NEZ: How about that?

BISHOP: That looks good. I mean, it's really a pancake turner, but we're going to give you a pass on that.

MART?NEZ: (Laughter) It's what I got, Jack. It's what I got.

(SOUNDBITE OF GLASS BOWLS CLINKING)

MART?NEZ: I was in Los Angeles, while Jack kept an eye on me from a safe distance. He was in Boston, watching over Zoom¹¹. We began by sauteing onions, garlic, chili powder and tomatoes.

(SOUNDBITE OF FOOD SIZZLING)

MART?NEZ: So, so far, Jack, there is nothing different with what we are doing if this were a meat chili - a real meat chili.

BISHOP: Part of that is using all the familiar flavors - right? - so that the final product is something that's familiar yet a little different.

MART?NEZ: Here comes the different part. We added plant-based meat from the company Beyond Meat. Jack says you can also use veggie meat from Impossible Foods.

BISHOP: So we've done taste tests here in the Test Kitchen, and the Impossible and the Beyond are our two favorites. They do the best job of replicating¹² the texture and the meaty, savory¹³ flavor of ground beef.

MART?NEZ: So, Jack, when we did our segment - now how many months ago? - we were doing burgers, plant-based burgers for Fourth of July. So on that day, that was my first plant-based meal, and I have not looked back. It has been plant-based every single day since.

BISHOP: Wow. And are you feeling better?

MART?NEZ: You know what? It took a few months because I don't think the change happened right away. I feel cleaner inside, if that makes any sense. It might be in my head, Jack. It might not be. It might be something real. But I feel like I am cleaner inside than I ever have been in my whole life.

BISHOP: Well, I can't imagine that, like, when we first talked, that I was going to have so much impact on your life. I mean, it's a little bit of an awesome¹⁴ responsibility at this point. I don't know what's going to happen after this segment.

MART?NEZ: We have now come to the part of our story that might be hard to swallow for chili-makers in the Lone¹⁵ Star State. That's because our next ingredient will never, ever be found in any bowl of chili that's served (singing) deep in the heart of Texas.

BISHOP: We're going to add a 15-ounce can of red kidney beans.

MART?NEZ: Beans in chili?

(SOUNDBITE OF WHIP CRACKING)

MART?NEZ: Yep. Them's fighting words.

(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)

BISHOP: All right. I'm going to just stipulate¹⁶ to everyone who's listening in Texas and the fact that we just added beans - you know, OK, I know we're in trouble 'cause, in Texas, it's about the meat. But, you know, in a plant-based chili, we only put four ounces of the plant-based meat in there. And so we need more protein, and so we're adding the red kidney beans in here, fully¹⁷ acknowledging this is the direction that we went. Hope you're OK with this. I mean...

MART?NEZ: I'm OK with it. My wife, who is from the Midland-Odessa area of West Texas - and when I put the beans in there, I looked around to make sure that she wasn't looking. And what does this look like to you, Jack, a roadside diner in West Texas? My goodness.

BISHOP: I think the only place where I think people can get themselves in trouble - if we were to call this Texas chili, then we'd be in trouble.

MART?NEZ: (Laughter).

BISHOP: Right? I mean, you know, because it's not. But we didn't - we're not calling this Texas chili. We're just calling it Weeknight Meaty Chili.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "THE CHILI SONG")

WILLIAM CLARK GREEN: (Singing) Don't you put no beans in my chili. Don't you put no beans in my chili. If you put beans into my chili, you don't know beans about making chili.

MART?NEZ: Weeknight Meaty Chili is one of the recipes in a new book from "America's Test Kitchen." It's called "Vegan Cooking For Two." It features more than 200 dishes designed for committed vegans, as well as folks who might be - como se dice¹⁸ - veggie curious?

(SOUNDBITE OF FOOD SIZZLING)

MART?NEZ: When it comes to trying to introduce plant-based dishes to other people, do you have to let people know exactly what you are going to give them? Because my mom, my dad and my brother - they won't do it. And I think, in the few months that I have been enjoying plant-based eating, that they wouldn't know the difference. If I gave them, say, a fried crispy chicken sandwich that was made out of a plant-based patty, they would not know the difference. So is it OK for me to just give them something and not tell them and have them love it? Or should I tell them beforehand?

BISHOP: Probably the most important thing is to make sure that you're aware of any allergies¹⁹ or food sensitivities, right?

MART?NEZ: My dad is allergic²⁰ to anything new.

BISHOP: Well, I'm of the school of telling people and making it a challenge. Do a taste test. Do the meat-based version and the plant-based version, but don't tell them which one is which, kind of gamify it a little bit 'cause that may be a way to get people to overcome their fears. How does that sound?

MART?NEZ: All right. That's the honorable way to go. I have no honor, Jack. So that's why (laughter), with my parents and my brother, I might just force it on them and see what happens.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "GOOD FIGHT")

UNSPOKEN: (Singing) Keep fighting the good fight. Never give up. Never give in. Keep letting your light shine.

BISHOP: What's going on in your skillet?

MART?NEZ: All right.

BISHOP: I'm just kind of curious. You know, I want to make sure we're paying attention to the cooking.

MART?NEZ: It smells great. It smells great. It looks great. I mean, it's almost screaming, eat me now.

BISHOP: All right. Why don't you take a little taste and see if it needs any salt and pepper?

MART?NEZ: All right, here goes.

(SOUNDBITE OF SKILLET BEING SCRAPED)

MART?NEZ: Man, this works. Oh, my gosh. I can't believe it, Jack. This works. It really works.

BISHOP: You cooked it. That's the big thing.

MART?NEZ: I'm shocked. To have this Weeknight Meaty Chili turn out as well as it did, I'm thrilled. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. And aside from that, I'll get to eat it, too, so that makes me even more happy.

BISHOP: Well, I'm thrilled. I feel, as your coach, I've done my job.

MART?NEZ: Well, Jack, thank you so much for taking me through Weeknight Meaty Chili from the book "Vegan Cooking For Two: 200+ Recipes For Everything You Love To Eat." Thank you very much.

BISHOP: You're welcome, and thank you.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "THE CHILI SONG")

GREEN: (Singing) Don't you put no beans in my chili. Don't you put no beans in my chili.

MART?NEZ: Jack Bishop hosts the PBS television show "America's Test Kitchen."

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "THE CHILI SONG")

GREEN: (Singing) You don't know beans about making chili. Don't put no beans in my chili.

1 chili   

n.辣椒

参考例句：

• He helped himself to another two small spoonfuls of chili oil.他自己下手又加了两小勺辣椒油。
• It has chocolate,chili,and other spices.有巧克力粉，辣椒，和其他的调味品。

2 transcript   

n.抄本，誊本，副本，肄业证书

参考例句：

• A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
• They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。

3 jack   

n.插座，千斤顶，男人；v.抬起，提醒，扛举；n.（Jake）杰克

参考例句：

• I am looking for the headphone jack.我正在找寻头戴式耳机插孔。
• He lifted the car with a jack to change the flat tyre.他用千斤顶把车顶起来换下瘪轮胎。

4 bishop   

n.主教，（国际象棋）象

参考例句：

• He was a bishop who was held in reverence by all.他是一位被大家都尊敬的主教。
• Two years after his death the bishop was canonised.主教逝世两年后被正式封为圣者。

5 vegetarian   

n.素食者；adj.素食的

参考例句：

• She got used gradually to the vegetarian diet.她逐渐习惯吃素食。
• I didn't realize you were a vegetarian.我不知道你是个素食者。

6 hearty   

adj.热情友好的；衷心的；尽情的，纵情的

参考例句：

• After work they made a hearty meal in the worker's canteen.工作完了，他们在工人食堂饱餐了一顿。
• We accorded him a hearty welcome.我们给他热忱的欢迎。

7 tantalize   

vt.使干着急，逗弄

参考例句：

• The boy would come into the room and tantalize the dog with his feed.那个男孩会到房间里拿狗食逗弄狗。
• He tried to tantalize me by revealing that the Soviet Union was prepared to discuss a package deal.他想要逗弄我，于是就露出口风说，苏联愿意讨论一揽子交易。

8 eyebrows   

眉毛( eyebrow的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• Eyebrows stop sweat from coming down into the eyes. 眉毛挡住汗水使其不能流进眼睛。
• His eyebrows project noticeably. 他的眉毛特别突出。

9 texture   

n.(织物)质地；(材料)构造；结构；肌理

参考例句：

• We could feel the smooth texture of silk.我们能感觉出丝绸的光滑质地。
• Her skin has a fine texture.她的皮肤细腻。

10 spatula   

n.抹刀

参考例句：

• He scraped the mixture out of the bowl with a plastic spatula.他用塑料铲把盆里的混合料刮了出来。
• She levelled the surface of the cake mixtured with a metal spatula.她用金属铲抹平了蛋糕配料。

11 zoom   

n.急速上升；v.突然扩大，急速上升

参考例句：

• The airplane's zoom carried it above the clouds.飞机的陡直上升使它飞到云层之上。
• I live near an airport and the zoom of passing planes can be heard night and day.我住在一个飞机场附近，昼夜都能听到飞机飞过的嗡嗡声。

12 replicating   

复制( replicate的现在分词 )； 重复； 再造； 再生

参考例句：

• Applications create these partitions for storing and replicating data. 应用程序创建这些分区用来储存和复制数据。
• The closest real things to these creatures were bits of self-replicating RNA. 最贴近这些造物的实物是能做一点微不足道的自复制的核糖核酸。

13 savory   

adj.风味极佳的，可口的，味香的

参考例句：

• She placed a huge dish before him of savory steaming meat.她将一大盘热气腾腾、美味可口的肉放在他面前。
• He doesn't have a very savory reputation.他的名誉不太好。

14 awesome   

adj.令人惊叹的，难得吓人的，很好的

参考例句：

• The church in Ireland has always exercised an awesome power.爱尔兰的教堂一直掌握着令人敬畏的权力。
• That new white convertible is totally awesome.那辆新的白色折篷汽车简直棒极了.

15 lone   

adj.孤寂的，单独的；唯一的

参考例句：

• A lone sea gull flew across the sky.一只孤独的海鸥在空中飞过。
• She could see a lone figure on the deserted beach.她在空旷的海滩上能看到一个孤独的身影。

16 stipulate   

vt.规定，（作为条件）讲定，保证

参考例句：

• International rules stipulate the number of foreign entrants.国际规则规定了外国参赛者的人数。
• Some manufacturers stipulate the price at which their goods are to be sold.有些制造商规定出售他们生产的商品的价格。

17 fully   

adv.完全地，全部地，彻底地；充分地

参考例句：

• The doctor asked me to breathe in,then to breathe out fully.医生让我先吸气，然后全部呼出。
• They soon became fully integrated into the local community.他们很快就完全融入了当地人的圈子。

18 dice   

n.骰子；vt.把（食物）切成小方块，冒险

参考例句：

• They were playing dice.他们在玩掷骰子游戏。
• A dice is a cube.骰子是立方体。

19 allergies   

n.[医]过敏症；[口]厌恶，反感；（对食物、花粉、虫咬等的）过敏症( allergy的名词复数 )；变态反应，变应性

参考例句：

• Food allergies can result in an enormous variety of different symptoms. 食物过敏会引发很多不同的症状。 来自辞典例句
• Let us, however, examine one of the most common allergies; hayfever. 现在让我们来看看最常见的变态反应的一种--枯草热。 来自辞典例句

20 allergic   

adj.过敏的，变态的

参考例句：

• Alice is allergic to the fur of cats.艾丽斯对猫的皮毛过敏。
• Many people are allergic to airborne pollutants such as pollen.许多人对空气传播的污染物过敏，比如花粉。