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Trump¹ Campaign Says 'Dishonest Media' Misinterpreted His Second Amendment² Comment

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

Let's listen twice to Donald Trump's remarks about gun owners resisting Hillary Clinton. The Republican presidential candidate made a remark yesterday about the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms. It was immediately called a suggestion of violence. Even the Secret Service said it is aware of the comments. The candidate himself says he was just talking of a political uprising, so we're going to work through this remark two times with NPR's Sarah McCammon who's in our studio. She covers the Trump campaign.

Hi, Sarah.

SARAH MCCAMMON, BYLINE³: Good morning.

INSKEEP: OK. So this happens yesterday in Wilmington, N.C., right?

MCCAMMON: Right.

INSKEEP: OK. Here's the crucial part of the speech.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

DONALD TRUMP: Hillary wants to abolish - essentially⁴ abolish the Second Amendment. By the way - and if she gets to pick...

(BOOING)

TRUMP: If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know. But...

(CHEERING, APPLAUSE)

TRUMP: But I'll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.

INSKEEP: OK. A lot of people laughing and cheering and booing, one man with his mouth open at one point as Trump is saying those things. You can see all that on the video. But there's a lot in there, so let's go through this piece by piece. First, this.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

TRUMP: Hillary wants to abolish - essentially abolish the Second Amendment.

INSKEEP: Sarah McCammon, that's the charge by Donald Trump. Does he say that a lot?

MCCAMMON: Yeah. This is something he says all the time on the campaign trail. It really riles up his audience. It gets them excited. A lot of his supporters are gun rights advocates. But I - we should point out, first of all, the president can't unilaterally abolish a constitutional amendment, and that is not Hillary Clinton's position. She does favor tougher gun regulations - things like stricter background checks, broader background checks and things like allowing families of gun violence victims to sue gun makers⁵ and dealers⁶. But she's never called for abolishing the Second Amendment, Steve.

INSKEEP: So they have a disagreement about how far gun regulations can go...

MCCAMMON: Exactly.

INSKEEP: ...Just as Donald Trump has had a disagreement with himself over the years about how far gun regulations can go because he's sometimes been for them and is now very much against them. Right.

OK. So that's the first part, the abolishing the Second Amendment. Let's go to the next part of the speech.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

TRUMP: By the way - and if she gets to pick...

(BOOING)

TRUMP: If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

INSKEEP: What's he talking about there?

MCCAMMON: There is, of course, one vacancy⁷ on the Supreme⁸ Court right now, expected to be, quite possibly, others during the next president's term. This is something that Trump has stressed on the campaign trail, that conservatives have given as a good reason for Republicans to vote for Trump - that they want him to pick Supreme Court justices, not Clinton.

INSKEEP: And I guess the concern is Hillary Clinton would favor policies that you don't like. It would go in a lawsuit⁹ to the Supreme Court, and her justices would rule in her favor. That's the concern he's raising.

MCCAMMON: Yes, on gun rights and other issues.

INSKEEP: OK. So now let's resume. Here's the punchline¹⁰.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

TRUMP: If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know. But...

(CHEERING, APPLAUSE)

TRUMP: But I'll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.

INSKEEP: All right. What does it mean - Second Amendment people, maybe there is something they can do afterward¹¹?

MCCAMMON: So a lot of people, Steve, took that to mean that Trump was suggesting, you know, a call to arms - that gun owners take up arms against his opponent. On a campaign swing in Austin, Texas, Clinton's running mate, Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, spoke¹² to the public radio newsmagazine the Texas Standard. Here's what he said.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

TIM KAINE: There is absolutely no place - there should be no place in our politics for somebody who wants to be a leader to say something, even in an offhand¹³ way, that is connected to inciting¹⁴ violence. And that's exactly what he said. In addition, the whole thing is false. Hillary Clinton is a Second Amendment supporter, just like I am.

MCCAMMON: And Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, Robby Mook, called this kind of language dangerous. But Steve, Trump and his campaign and his surrogates have steadfastly¹⁵ said that is not what he meant. They've said he was talking about political power.

INSKEEP: OK. Well, let's hear what Donald Trump himself said. He was on Fox News last night. He's talking to Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity says - Mr. Trump, this was obviously a harmless remark, what do you think? And Trump says, in part, this.

(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "HANNITY")

TRUMP: This is a tremendous political movement. The NRA, as you know, endorsed¹⁶ me. They're terrific people, Wayne and Chris and all of the people over there. And by the way, they've already - I just saw they tweeted out basically they agree 100 percent with what I said. And there can be no other interpretation¹⁷, even reporters have told me. I mean, give me a break.

INSKEEP: Sarah, you've written about this in the past. Donald Trump will make a remark that's interpreted as outrageous¹⁸, and then he'll insist no, no, no, you're being outrageous. I didn't mean anything by it.

MCCAMMON: Right. He - you know, he'll sort of push the boundaries and then sort of dial it back. And the interesting thing, Steve, is that his supporters seem to think, you know, he's either just speaking from the gut¹⁹, or he's saying what needs to be said, or he didn't mean, you know, the worst way you might interpret that. It worked well for him in the primaries. Republican primary voters liked that. But here we are in the general election. His poll numbers are falling. This is the kind of thing that can hurt him in the general election cycle.

INSKEEP: He dominates the media when he does this, right?

MCCAMMON: That's right. He keeps himself in the headlines. That has been - he's been a master at staying in the headlines. Worked well so far, but, you know, going forward, we'll see.

INSKEEP: NPR's Sarah McCammon, thanks very much.

MCCAMMON: Thank you.

1 trump   

n.王牌，法宝；v.打出王牌，吹喇叭

参考例句：

• He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
• The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手，作为他的王牌。

2 amendment   

n.改正，修正，改善，修正案

参考例句：

• The amendment was rejected by 207 voters to 143.这项修正案以207票对143票被否决。
• The Opposition has tabled an amendment to the bill.反对党已经就该议案提交了一项修正条款。

3 byline   

n.署名；v.署名

参考例句：

• His byline was absent as well.他的署名也不见了。
• We wish to thank the author of this article which carries no byline.我们要感谢这篇文章的那位没有署名的作者。

4 essentially   

adv.本质上，实质上，基本上

参考例句：

• Really great men are essentially modest.真正的伟人大都很谦虚。
• She is an essentially selfish person.她本质上是个自私自利的人。

5 makers   

n.制造者，制造商（maker的复数形式）

参考例句：

• The makers of the product assured us that there had been no sacrifice of quality. 这一产品的制造商向我们保证说他们没有牺牲质量。
• The makers are about to launch out a new product. 制造商们马上要生产一种新产品。 来自《简明英汉词典》

6 dealers   

n.商人( dealer的名词复数 )；贩毒者；毒品贩子；发牌者

参考例句：

• There was fast bidding between private collectors and dealers. 私人收藏家和交易商急速竞相喊价。
• The police were corrupt and were operating in collusion with the drug dealers. 警察腐败，与那伙毒品贩子内外勾结。

7 vacancy   

n.（旅馆的）空位，空房，（职务的）空缺

参考例句：

• Her going on maternity leave will create a temporary vacancy.她休产假时将会有一个临时空缺。
• The vacancy of her expression made me doubt if she was listening.她茫然的神情让我怀疑她是否在听。

8 supreme   

adj.极度的，最重要的；至高的，最高的

参考例句：

• It was the supreme moment in his life.那是他一生中最重要的时刻。
• He handed up the indictment to the supreme court.他把起诉书送交最高法院。

9 lawsuit   

n.诉讼，控诉

参考例句：

• They threatened him with a lawsuit.他们以诉讼威逼他。
• He was perpetually involving himself in this long lawsuit.他使自己无休止地卷入这场长时间的诉讼。

10 punchline   

n.（笑话、故事等的）结尾警语，点睛之笔

参考例句：

• Even then,the magical pause can strengthen the punchline.即使这样，有魔力的停顿依然可以增强笑点。
• A good joke or a mystery novel has along wind up to the final punchline.好的笑话或神秘小说都是一路曲折，直至最后的笑料或真相。

11 afterward   

adv.后来；以后

参考例句：

• Let's go to the theatre first and eat afterward. 让我们先去看戏，然后吃饭。
• Afterward,the boy became a very famous artist.后来，这男孩成为一个很有名的艺术家。

12 spoke   

n.（车轮的）辐条；轮辐；破坏某人的计划；阻挠某人的行动 v.讲，谈（speak的过去式）；说；演说；从某种观点来说

参考例句：

• They sourced the spoke nuts from our company.他们的轮辐螺帽是从我们公司获得的。
• The spokes of a wheel are the bars that connect the outer ring to the centre.辐条是轮子上连接外圈与中心的条棒。

13 offhand   

adj.临时，无准备的；随便，马虎的

参考例句：

• I can't answer your request offhand.我不能随便答复你的要求。
• I wouldn't want to say what I thought about it offhand.我不愿意随便说我关于这事的想法。

14 inciting   

刺激的，煽动的

参考例句：

• What are you up to inciting mutiny and insubordination? 你们干吗在这里煽动骚动的叛乱呀。
• He was charged with inciting people to rebel. 他被控煽动民众起来叛乱。

15 steadfastly   

adv.踏实地，不变地；岿然；坚定不渝

参考例句：

• So he sat, with a steadfastly vacant gaze, pausing in his work. 他就像这样坐着，停止了工作，直勾勾地瞪着眼。 来自英汉文学 - 双城记
• Defarge and his wife looked steadfastly at one another. 德伐日和他的妻子彼此凝视了一会儿。 来自英汉文学 - 双城记

16 endorsed   

vt.& vi.endorse的过去式或过去分词形式v.赞同( endorse的过去式和过去分词 )；在（尤指支票的）背面签字；在（文件的）背面写评论；在广告上说本人使用并赞同某产品

参考例句：

• The committee endorsed an initiative by the chairman to enter discussion about a possible merger. 委员会通过了主席提出的新方案，开始就可能进行的并购进行讨论。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• The government has broadly endorsed a research paper proposing new educational targets for 14-year-olds. 政府基本上支持建议对14 岁少年实行新教育目标的研究报告。 来自《简明英汉词典》

17 interpretation   

n.解释，说明，描述；艺术处理

参考例句：

• His statement admits of one interpretation only.他的话只有一种解释。
• Analysis and interpretation is a very personal thing.分析与说明是个很主观的事情。

18 outrageous   

adj.无理的，令人不能容忍的

参考例句：

• Her outrageous behaviour at the party offended everyone.她在聚会上的无礼行为触怒了每一个人。
• Charges for local telephone calls are particularly outrageous.本地电话资费贵得出奇。

19 gut   

n.[pl.]胆量；内脏；adj.本能的；vt.取出内脏

参考例句：

• It is not always necessary to gut the fish prior to freezing.冷冻鱼之前并不总是需要先把内脏掏空。
• My immediate gut feeling was to refuse.我本能的直接反应是拒绝。