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 　　JUDY WOODRUFF: As pressure builds from critics of a nuclear deal with Iran, negotiators are back in Genevafor another round of talks.Our chief foreign affairs correspondent, Margaret Warner, is also there. I spoketo her a short time ago.

　　Margaret, hello.So, is there any movement reported today?

　　MARGARET WARNER: Judy, that's a fascinating question that's hard to answer.

　　There was a flurry of activity. Undersecretary Wendy Sherman, the whole U.S. delegation¹ flew overnight andjumped right into talks with their European, Russian, and Chinese counterparts, no doubt to avoid the kindof disagreement that sunk it last time.

　　But, then, when Lady Catherine Ashton, who is the E.U. high representative, and the Iranian foreign minister, Zarif, had lunch today, his deputy foreign minister came out of there saying, we're not talking about substance of any draft right now. We're still talking about progress.

　　This is the third round of intensive negotiations², and you would think process questions would have been settled quite some time ago. So, it does at least appear as if they have had to reset³ the starting point tosome degree.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: How would you describe the atmosphere? What are people saying outside the meeting, around -- around what's going on there?

　　MARGARET WARNER: Well, Judy, the feeling was from people here, but also, I think, in respective capitals, that everyone came into this with high expectations, and a kind of a sense that this was the week that they'd clinch⁴ this first step on the way to a comprehensive deal.

　　But, today, there were definitely some sour notes. I mean, Lady Ashton said the lunch was very positive, but there was great attention given to this fiery⁵ speech by Supreme⁶ Leader Khamenei, in which he said therehad been red lines established that the Iranian delegation could not cross.

　　And after this lunch, as I said, that Lady Ashton said was positive, the deputy Iran foreign minister said, well, the reason we're not talking substance yet is there is trust that was broken that has to be rebuilt. So the Iranians even late tonight were telling me that there is a sense of mistrust and that we hope wewill get to the -- we will get to the substance tomorrow.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, we know the last round of talks didn't end as many had wanted them to in the administration. Has -- how much of a shadow has that cast over what's -- the talks taking place now?

　　MARGARET WARNER: A huge shadow, Judy.

　　First of all, clearly, the U.S. and the Iranians and really everyone wants to avoid the embarrassment⁷ of last time, when the U.S. and Iran appeared close to the outlines of a deal, and then all the other foreign ministers came in and the French raised sudden objections.

　　In fact, we had an interesting little tidbit about this today that the U.S. hinted at and the E.U. spokesman confirmed, which was that Lady Ashton had only invited Secretary Kerry last time, and the foreign ministers hearing of this all decided⁸ they would come.

　　The other reason that they want to avoid another setback⁹ is that, in the interim¹⁰, critics any of potentialdeal have really gained ground, especially certainly in Washington. And, right now, Israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu is in Russia lobbying President Putin against the deal.

　　So, even though U.S. officials say -- said tonight at a briefing, oh, we're not in a rush to get any deal,I do sense from them a feeling of urgency, that if this first-step process goes on too much longer, it could get dragged down by critics at home, especially with new congressional sanctions.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: And, Margaret, you mentioned the Iranians speaking about a break in the trust between thetwo countries, and that that trust has to be built back up again. How is the U.S. responding to that?

　　MARGARET WARNER: Well, we asked this tonight.

　　And one -- one U.S. official pulled me aside and said, really, that's a negotiating tactic¹¹, but the seniorU.S. official briefing us said, when asked about it, it's been tough, and that there are real moments of tension, and this official went on to say, we have critics and skeptics domestically. We all do. And this is a very -- I don't -- don't remember the exact words -- but this is a very difficult thing for us all to do.So, to some degree, I would say they sidestepped the question, but didn't dispute it.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: So, given all this, Margaret, how would you describe expectations?

　　MARGARET WARNER: I think that moment is being prepared for Secretary Kerry and maybe others to fly in.

　　But, definitely tonight, the tone of briefings from both Iranian and American officials was much more cautious than at this point in the last round. And each one had the tone of someone who doesn't want to get burned again.

　　JUDY WOODRUFF: Margaret Warner in Geneva, and we will check in with you again tomorrow.

　　MARGARET WARNER: Look forward to it, Judy.

1 delegation   

n.代表团；派遣

参考例句：

• The statement of our delegation was singularly appropriate to the occasion.我们代表团的声明非常适合时宜。
• We shall inform you of the date of the delegation's arrival.我们将把代表团到达的日期通知你。

2 negotiations   

协商( negotiation的名词复数 )； 谈判； 完成（难事）； 通过

参考例句：

• negotiations for a durable peace 为持久和平而进行的谈判
• Negotiations have failed to establish any middle ground. 谈判未能达成任何妥协。

3 reset   

v.重新安排，复位；n.重新放置；重放之物

参考例句：

• As soon as you arrive at your destination,step out of the aircraft and reset your wristwatch.你一到达目的地，就走出飞机并重新设置手表时间。
• He is recovering from an operation to reset his arm.他做了一个手臂复位手术，正在恢复。

4 clinch   

v.敲弯，钉牢；确定；扭住对方 [参]clench

参考例句：

• Clinch the boards together.用钉子把木板钉牢在一起。
• We don't accept us dollars,please Swiss francs to clinch a deal business.我方不收美元，请最好用瑞士法郎来成交生意。

5 fiery   

adj.燃烧着的，火红的；暴躁的；激烈的

参考例句：

• She has fiery red hair.她有一头火红的头发。
• His fiery speech agitated the crowd.他热情洋溢的讲话激动了群众。

6 supreme   

adj.极度的，最重要的；至高的，最高的

参考例句：

• It was the supreme moment in his life.那是他一生中最重要的时刻。
• He handed up the indictment to the supreme court.他把起诉书送交最高法院。

7 embarrassment   

n.尴尬；使人为难的人(事物)；障碍；窘迫

参考例句：

• She could have died away with embarrassment.她窘迫得要死。
• Coughing at a concert can be a real embarrassment.在音乐会上咳嗽真会使人难堪。

8 decided   

adj.决定了的，坚决的；明显的，明确的

参考例句：

• This gave them a decided advantage over their opponents.这使他们比对手具有明显的优势。
• There is a decided difference between British and Chinese way of greeting.英国人和中国人打招呼的方式有很明显的区别。

9 setback   

n.退步，挫折，挫败

参考例句：

• Since that time there has never been any setback in his career.从那时起他在事业上一直没有遇到周折。
• She views every minor setback as a disaster.她把每个较小的挫折都看成重大灾难。

10 interim   

adj.暂时的，临时的；n.间歇，过渡期间

参考例句：

• The government is taking interim measures to help those in immediate need.政府正在采取临时措施帮助那些有立即需要的人。
• It may turn out to be an interim technology.这可能只是个过渡技术。

11 tactic   

n.战略，策略；adj.战术的，有策略的

参考例句：

• Reducing prices is a common sales tactic.降价是常用的销售策略。
• She had often used the tactic of threatening to resign.她惯用以辞职相威胁的手法。