PBS高端访谈:库尔德领导人宣称需要更多的美国武器来对付伊斯兰国

 　　GWEN IFILL: Earlier this week, special correspondent Jane Arraf traveled to Northern Iraq to interview Masoud Barzani.

　　She began by asking him about the arms issue.

　　JANE ARRAF, Special Correspondent: You have said in the past that the U.S. should be playing perhaps a more active role here. They should be doing more, should be supplying under weapons. Do you still feel that way?

　　PRESIDENT MASOUD BARZANI, Kurdistan Regional Government, Iraq (through interpreter): We are satisfied with the air support. We are getting good support, but, in reality, to this present moment, we have the same view as in the past on arming and equipping the Peshmerga forces with the right weapons.

　　It's not to the standard we want.

　　JANE ARRAF: And there's been a lot of concern in various parts of the world about the role that Iran is playing here, particularly with the militias¹ that it's backing. Do you share that concern?

　　MASOUD BARZANI (through interpreter): We have a principle. Wherever we can strike, we're not going to hold back and whoever will take part and help us attack I.S., we will thank them.

　　Right now, I don't share that concern if you are asking me about helping² to fight and defeat I.S. What happens after that, we can't predict.

　　JANE ARRAF: Do you worry that, at some point, the Peshmerga, the Kurdish forces, could end up fighting the Shia militias?

　　MASOUD BARZANI (through interpreter): I don't envisage³ that. Right now, we are in an alliance to fight I.S. I am hoping no one is thinking of that. We never wish to fight with anyone.

　　Make no mistake. Whoever is going to attack the region, we will defend ourselves, but, right now, that is unimaginable.

　　JANE ARRAF: A lot of this fight now is moving into almost purely⁴ Sunni Arab territory, Tikrit, Mosul to come. What role do you see the Peshmerga playing in those fights?

　　MASOUD BARZANI (through interpreter): If there's a program to liberate⁵ Mosul or anywhere else that is on the doorstep of the Kurdistan region, we can study the situation. In principle, we have no objections in helping the Iraqi military forces, the popular mobilization forces and the Sunni forces.

　　If they have a program, we will help and support them, but we are not going to do anything on our own.

　　JANE ARRAF: And the Kurds have been through many battles, of course. It's part of your Kurdish history, but this — this enemy, the Islamic State group, seems like nothing that you have battled before. For instance, they have captured 21 of your Peshmerga and they're threatening to behead them on a major Kurdish holiday. How do you — how are you able to confront something like that?

　　MASOUD BARZANI (through interpreter): It's true this is a different type of fight to all the others we have fought before. The tactic⁶ is different. The style of the fighter is different.

　　But the Peshmerga and the Kurdish people have been given the honor of defeating and tarnishing⁷ the image of I.S. Of course, it is very sad to see a group of them falling into the hands of I.S. Of course, it is very sad and it hurts me a great deal personally. We will try our utmost to free them. But if that doesn't materialize, we will classify them as martyrs⁸, and the number of our martyrs will increase.

　　JANE ARRAF: Just a few months before this came up, before the Islamic State group came in and seized all this territory last year, there was some talk that you would be pushing towards moves for eventual⁹ independence.

　　Has that all been set aside or pushed back now?

　　MASOUD BARZANI (through interpreter): The conflict delayed this process, but the process is still valid¹⁰. We're not going to abandon it. We're going to do it through dialogue.

　　We will talk with Baghdad about it. We are not going to challenge people. We are not going to fight with them. But, as I said, the process is still valid, and we're not going to retreat from it. But we need to study. We need to use wisdom. We need to be united. We can't use force. We cannot shed blood.

　　JANE ARRAF: Just finally, the Islamic State group and their advance into Iraq and Syria has really changed the course of history in many ways. Do you think it has changed Kurdish history in any sense?

　　MASOUD BARZANI (through interpreter): I can't say they changed the course of history, but it strengthened the spirit of defense¹¹ and sacrifice and the unity¹² of the Kurdish people a great deal.

　　JANE ARRAF: President Barzani, thank you so much.

　　MASOUD BARZANI: Thank you.

1 militias   

n.民兵组织，民兵( militia的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• The troops will not attempt to disarm the warring militias. 部队并不打算解除战斗中的民兵武装。 来自辞典例句
• The neighborhood was a battleground for Shiite and Sunni militias. 那里曾是什叶派和逊尼派武装分子的战场。 来自互联网

2 helping   

n.食物的一份&adj.帮助人的，辅助的

参考例句：

• The poor children regularly pony up for a second helping of my hamburger. 那些可怜的孩子们总是要求我把我的汉堡包再给他们一份。
• By doing this, they may at times be helping to restore competition. 这样一来, 他在某些时候,有助于竞争的加强。

3 envisage   

v.想象，设想，展望，正视

参考例句：

• Nobody can envisage the consequences of total nuclear war.没有人能够想像全面核战争的后果。
• When do you envisage being able to pay me back?你看你什么时候能还我钱？

4 purely   

adv.纯粹地，完全地

参考例句：

• I helped him purely and simply out of friendship.我帮他纯粹是出于友情。
• This disproves the theory that children are purely imitative.这证明认为儿童只会单纯地模仿的理论是站不住脚的。

5 liberate   

v.解放，使获得自由，释出，放出；vt.解放，使获自由

参考例句：

• They did their best to liberate slaves.他们尽最大能力去解放奴隶。
• This will liberate him from economic worry.这将消除他经济上的忧虑。

6 tactic   

n.战略，策略；adj.战术的，有策略的

参考例句：

• Reducing prices is a common sales tactic.降价是常用的销售策略。
• She had often used the tactic of threatening to resign.她惯用以辞职相威胁的手法。

7 tarnishing   

（印花）白地沾色

参考例句：

• The causes of tarnishing gold and silver-plated connectors were studied respectively. 分别探讨了接插件镀金和镀银层变色的原因。
• Bright tin electrodeposits on copper wire are susceptible to tarnishing. 铜线材经光亮镀锡后易产生腐蚀变色。

8 martyrs   

n.martyr的复数形式；烈士( martyr的名词复数 )；殉道者；殉教者；乞怜者（向人诉苦以博取同情）

参考例句：

• the early Christian martyrs 早期基督教殉道者
• They paid their respects to the revolutionary martyrs. 他们向革命烈士致哀。 来自《现代汉英综合大词典》

9 eventual   

adj.最后的，结局的，最终的

参考例句：

• Several schools face eventual closure.几所学校面临最终关闭。
• Both parties expressed optimism about an eventual solution.双方对问题的最终解决都表示乐观。

10 valid   

adj.有确实根据的；有效的；正当的，合法的

参考例句：

• His claim to own the house is valid.他主张对此屋的所有权有效。
• Do you have valid reasons for your absence?你的缺席有正当理由吗？

11 defense   

n.防御，保卫；[pl.]防务工事；辩护，答辩

参考例句：

• The accused has the right to defense.被告人有权获得辩护。
• The war has impacted the area with military and defense workers.战争使那个地区挤满了军队和防御工程人员。

12 unity   

n.团结，联合，统一；和睦，协调

参考例句：

• When we speak of unity,we do not mean unprincipled peace.所谓团结，并非一团和气。
• We must strengthen our unity in the face of powerful enemies.大敌当前，我们必须加强团结。