PBS高端访谈:我们对法国高铁枪击案了解些什么?

 　　JOHN LARSON: Joining me now by Skype from Paris is Andrew Callus of Reuters. Andrew, thanks so much for joining us.

　　First of all, you know, we are just hearing that, you know, the first gun jammed, the second one wasn't fully¹ loaded. It sounds like an extraordinarily² lucky situation.

　　ANDREW CALLUS, Reuters: It certainly does, yes. The three young American men who were involved in the — in the — in bringing the gunman down were giving a press conference a little while ago, and they said that it was quite clear he had no weapons training, two of those servicemen, so I guess they should know.

　　JOHN LARSON: What does that lead investigators³ to think about this gunman? Where was he from?

　　ANDREW CALLUS: He spent his adult life in a very poor, drug-, crime-ridden, unemployment type of suburb of Algeciras. So we know that about him.

　　A local community leader said he was a pretty ordinary young man who went — played football, who went fishing.

　　JOHN LARSON: Are there any actual ties being shown yet to any terrorist⁴ group?

　　ANDREW CALLUS: Not as yet. He was — so he was on a list of suspected Islamist militants⁵. He basically had been thought to have had ties to — to some groups.

　　The boldest assertion we have seen is in a Belgian newspaper, which says he was linked to the group which was involved in a shooting in Brussels just a few days — a few days after the one in Paris in January.

　　JOHN LARSON: I read that he was on this S-list in France, where they are tracking, you know, people they are concerned about.

　　How many people are on these types of lists?

　　ANDREW CALLUS: The prime minister earlier this year said there were 3,000 on that S-list who were considered to be Islamist militants.

　　And of course, the problem is, until they actually do something that they could be arrested for, there's not very much anyone can do to actually stop them from moving around.

　　The countries that the train was traveling through, people travel across borders without passports, without security checks and so on. So these people can — can travel around.

　　JOHN LARSON: Ever since the first news of this arrived here in the United States, there's been questions about whether or not he actually — the gunman actually went to Syria. Any news on that?

　　ANDREW CALLUS: Sources within Spanish security services are saying he did go to Syria from France, not necessarily directly.

　　The French security services say that they know he traveled from Berlin to Istanbul on May the 10th of this year, or at least that he was in Berlin Airport on his way to Istanbul.

　　Now, Istanbul, in Turkey, that is a destination for a lot of would-be European jihadists wanting to go and join the fighting in Syria.

　　JOHN LARSON: Finally, any idea of whether or not they are going to have to change or ramp⁶ up security measures on the train?

　　ANDREW CALLUS: They are certainly talking about it.

　　It has been a few years now that people have said that these Thalys high-speed trains between — between the European countries are potentially vulnerable⁷ to an attack.

　　And here we have one. That is certainly going to be a debate over the coming weeks.

　　JOHN LARSON: Andrew Callus, from Reuters in Paris, thanks so much for joining us.

　　ANDREW CALLUS: My pleasure.

1 fully   

adv.完全地，全部地，彻底地；充分地

参考例句：

• The doctor asked me to breathe in,then to breathe out fully.医生让我先吸气，然后全部呼出。
• They soon became fully integrated into the local community.他们很快就完全融入了当地人的圈子。

2 extraordinarily   

adv.格外地；极端地

参考例句：

• She is an extraordinarily beautiful girl.她是个美丽非凡的姑娘。
• The sea was extraordinarily calm that morning.那天清晨，大海出奇地宁静。

3 investigators   

n.调查者，审查者( investigator的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• This memo could be the smoking gun that investigators have been looking for. 这份备忘录可能是调查人员一直在寻找的证据。
• The team consisted of six investigators and two secretaries. 这个团队由六个调查人员和两个秘书组成。 来自《简明英汉词典》

4 terrorist   

n.恐怖主义者，恐怖分子

参考例句：

• Without the gun,I'm a sitting duck for any terrorist.没有这支枪，我就成了恐怖分子下手的目标了。
• The district was put on red alert during a terrorist's bomb scare.这个地区在得到恐怖分子炸弹恐吓后作了应急准备。

5 militants   

激进分子，好斗分子( militant的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• The militants have been sporadically fighting the government for years. 几年来，反叛分子一直对政府实施零星的战斗。
• Despite the onslaught, Palestinian militants managed to fire off rockets. 尽管如此，巴勒斯坦的激进分子仍然发射导弹。

6 ramp   

n.暴怒，斜坡，坡道；vi.作恐吓姿势，暴怒，加速；vt.加速

参考例句：

• That driver drove the car up the ramp.那司机将车开上了斜坡。
• The factory don't have that capacity to ramp up.这家工厂没有能力加速生产。

7 vulnerable   

adj.易受伤的，脆弱的，易受攻击的

参考例句：

• He volunteered to protect her as she looked so vulnerable.她看上去很脆弱，他就主动去保护她。
• The company is in an economically vulnerable position.该公司目前经济状况不稳定。